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2005-02-05

 
From: "Lelia Loban" 
Subject: [CB] Scam Ebayer
Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2005 10:53:45 -0500


John Kilpatrick wrote,
>Re my earlier message about 477 items, I see
>that beteherc is "no longer a registered user".

Good, and thanks very much for the warnings.  Is there any realistic chance that eBay will get this guy arrested?  Do any of these obvious scamsters ever get arrested?  Aside from the occasional newspaper item about eBay removing an auction for a baby or for miscellaneous body parts, I can't remember seeing much about folks getting busted for plain old fraud.

Lelia Loban
51 percent of the vote is not a mandate.

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From: Michael Grogg
Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2005 16:45:37 GMT
Subject: Re: [CB] Scam Ebayer


Most likely not.  In most states the amount of the theft has to be over $300.00, sometimes more before it becomes a felony.  Unless the scammer is making a lot of felony offenses, the chances of getting a prosecutor interested in pursuing the person, particularly the investigative costs, plus the costs of extraditing the person from whoknowswhere, then the court procedings, and perhaps the costs of warehousing the individual for a few years, it just wouldn't make fiscal sense.  These guys are perhaps getting away with enough little $10 thefts to make a few bucks, and not getting caught through pure apathy of the officials.

My Saturday .02

Michael Grogg
Regime change begins at home.

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From: sande
Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2005 11:59:08 EST
Subject: Re: [CB] String bass solo tuning

The list helped me before, I thought I would try again.  I am slowly coming to understand the string bass solo tuning process.  One uses a different set of strings of a lighter gauge.  Does one usually use these strings on the standard 3/4 bass?  I recall someone mentioned the 5/8  size instrument as the one usually used for the solo tuning.   Does the performer always have two basses, one for the orchestra work and one for the solo work? How does this affect the performers intonation?
sande

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From: sande
Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2005 12:00:28 EST
Subject: Re: [CB] Scam Ebayer

if the scammer has 477 listings, would not he be running out on a bill over $300 due ebay ?
sande

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From: Michael Grogg
Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2005 17:28:03 GMT
Subject: Re: [CB] Scam Ebayer


I don't think the bill due ebay has anything to do with it.  Ebay collects its fees or the seller gets the boot. 

Crminal charges would have to eminate from a prosecutors office/court upon complaint of a person who sent money and did not receive a product.  Since we don't know what continet he/she is even on, the chances of getting a successful prosecution for a few low dollar scams is very low.  When I was in the law enforcement field, I saw cases go no where just because the prosecutor didn't want to spend the money to extradite a person from another state because the transportation costs alone were more than the value of the original theft. 

The best protection is what we seeing being practiced right now, vigilance, and reliance on the old axiom if it seems too good to be true, it probably is.

Michael
4 more years? Hell, give 'em 20 years in the Hauge!


>>if the scammer has 477 listings, would not he be running out on a bill over $300 due ebay ?
sande

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