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2000-12-28

 
Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 23:34:32 -0500
From: jim & joyce
Subject: [CB] Time share? No.  501-C3? hmmmm

David is right, a time share won't work.  But maybe a 501C3
educational organization would.  The trick is not to get 16
big sponsors who expect to play this thing a month each
year, but rather 160 little sponsors who expect the 'mini
museum' to be used by a couple of orchestras / music schools
around the country each year, and who hope to benefit by
getting to see it used, hearing it in recordings, and maybe
-- just a wee possible maybe -- getting to try it out
occasionally.

Think of it being like a big telescope.  No single
astronomer can justify having a 2 meter scope.  But when one
gets built, a lot of folks are willing to go out of their
way to use it.  The Octo may be big, but at least it is
portable.  Perhaps there really would be a lot of interest
in building a concert around one.  (I am assuming that this
instrument would actually have some musical qualities and
would not be more suitable to a freak show.)

Count me in either way.
jim lande

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From: CoolStu67
Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 23:50:21 EST
Subject: Re: [CB] Time share? No.  501-C3? hmmmm

I say someone needs to write either Leblanc or Orsi to find out how much this
endeavor will cost, then Grant (since he's the head of the list, but actually
anybody could do it) will set up an account at a bank for it. He can then
provide account numbers and bank information for us to wire money freely <g>
When we reach the amount, Grant or whoever can place the order. Have it
shipped to a neutral location (such as an orchestra's museum or something to
that effect), and we can then proceed to visit it!

How does this sound... to simple?

Stuart

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Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 23:31:18 -0800
From: David Flager
Subject: Re: [CB] [CB Digest]

"octocontrabass we could own jointly".

OK !  OK! everyone.  If this thing really gets off the ground, I'll
throw in my $100. I'm in california. WHO is going to be the "Librarian"
Grant maybe?

Keep me posted, I don't always get ALL the discussion that goes on with
these once a day updates.

David F.
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From: TIFFCONTRA
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 11:48:51 EST
Subject: Re: [CB] [CB Digest]

Count me in too.

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From: Opusnandy
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 12:37:17 EST
Subject: Re: [CB] [CB Digest](octocontra)

I'm still not convinced that the logistics of the jointly owned octocontra
would work out.  But if a truly feasible plan could be worked out (and if
Leblanc even would make another one) put me in for up to a couple hundred.

Jon Carreira
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Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 13:28:11 -0500
From: Edward Branham
Subject: Re: [CB] [CB Digest](octocontra)

If the Orsi / LA Sax CB sax retails at $40,000 (ok, out the door at $35,000)
... I'd have to believe that a one time OCB clart would be more dear.  Guesses
anyone ... $60k ?  If we could get the price that low, then at $100 each, we
will need 600 subscribers  (how many people are active on the list again?).
So ... I pay $100 now, and every 2 years I get to see it once for a week
(either travel there or ship it here) ... and what about the maintenance cost
- who's going to keep the beast regulated and leak-free?

Not to burst anyone's bubble ... but let's make sure that we do understand
that such an idea is only a day dream.

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From: "Kevin Highley"
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 21:03:47 -0000
Subject: [CB] "octocontrabass we could own jointly".

There is a proposal that we jointly buy an octocontrabass clarinet.

I would be happy to contribute to such a project, if only to see pictures
and hear recordings.   Being based in England I would have to visit the
States to see/play the beast - but a good excuse to travel is always
welcome.   Perhaps I could even be your delivery boy, Paris is only a few
hours away from me, via the channel tunnel.

Kevin Highley.

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From: Heliconman
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 16:32:20 EST
Subject: Re: [CB] [CB Digest](octocontra)

In a message dated 12/28/00 1:32:39 PM Eastern Standard Time, ebb writes:

<< If the Orsi / LA Sax CB sax retails at $40,000 (ok, out the door at $35,000)
 ... I'd have to believe that a one time OCB clart would be more dear.  Guesses
 anyone ... $60k ?  If we could get the price that low, then at $100 each, we
 will need 600 subscribers  (how many people are active on the list again?).
 So ... I pay $100 now, and every 2 years I get to see it once for a week
 (either travel there or ship it here) ... and what about the maintenance cost
 - who's going to keep the beast regulated and leak-free?  >>

You start to get into real estate economics here. If the rent is too low,
there goes the neighborhood. Probably a lower responsibility level. Rather
than $100 x 600, you might want to start more in the neighbor hood of $500 x
120 SUBscribers or even $1100 x 52 SUBscribers where everyone would have
custody on week per year. You would probably need to solicit major orchestras
who would SUBsidize using grants from Arts foundations and sponsorships from
corporate and institutional sources. Once the instrument is paid for, an
annual invoice would be sent out to all the owners for maintenance and
repair. For those SUBscribers who want to switch their week or sell their
share, a broker might be needed. Sounds like an annual membership fee to
cover management and maintenance. A contract would need to be drawn up to
protect the instrument and all its owners.
Or Donald Trump (or a similarly well endowed owner) could buy it outright and
lease it out. Suggestions: Smithsonian, Lincoln Center, a major orchestra,
museum or university or anyone with a large bankroll who supports the arts.
Of course, he who pays makes the rules.
 Perhaps "Home Base" (or Home Bass!) should be the shop of a highly qualified
repair tech who would inspect and maintain the instrument after its return
from each user.
 By the way, count me out. Can't afford the luxury. Saving for instrument
repair school and being a brass player, I'd be more likely to support the
maintenance of Harvard's BBBb subcontrabass tuba to attempt to make it the
least bit playable. Maybe that's a bit over-optimistic, but worthy of an
attempt perhaps.
 Keep daydreaming!
"If you don't have a dream, how ya gonna make a dream come true?!"
Best of Luck!
Heliconman
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