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Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 15:32:59 -0700
From: Grant Green
Subject: Re: [CB] Heckelphone images

>         Do you wish to use the photos currently on Ebay with the
>Heckelphone auction for your Heckelphone page? You me wish to download these
>ASAP, as Frank needs the space on his site for other things in a day or two.

Hi Peter,

I can see why: I downloaded all the images by FTP, and the whole set
takes up 9.2 MB on my disk!  They *are* great pictures, BTW.  Now to
find a good place to park them...


Grant Green
Professional Fool ->

Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 16:31:09 -0700
From: Grant Green
Subject: [CB] Heckelphone images

I've now parked all of Peter's Heckelphone images in a new Yahoo
club, at  There are two
photo galleries, titled "Peter Hurd's Heckelphone" and "Peter Hurd's
Heckelphone II".  OK, so I didn't feel particularly creative this
afternoon...  Anyway, there they are, unresized, in all their glory.
And good shots they are, too.



Grant Green
Professional Fool ->

Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 02:56:12 +0100
From: "Klaus Bjerre"
Subject: Re: [CB] Heckelphone images

What are the reasons for the apparently closed end of the bell?

Acoustical? (more muted sound)?

Practical? (support for the peg)?


Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 23:22:54 -0400
From: "Robert S. Howe"
Subject: Re: [CB] Heckelphone sales

> From: "Samuel O. Andreyev, O.P.S."
......imagine my utter horror
> when I learned that four months ago, a Heckelphone had changed hands in
> my very own city of Toronto (I believed that there wasn't a single one
> in Canada) for (Canadian) $2,000!

The Heckelphone in question sold for $15,000 Canadian.  I know because I
played duets with the new owner on Saturday.  It is a nice horn, but I
like mine more.  There are at least three others in Canada.

Rumors, rumors, rumors.

Robert Howe

From: "Peter Hurd"
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 20:47:20 -0800
Subject: [CB] Heckelphone

Dear Sam,
        I read your note in the contrabass digest. 30 years ago, Ponte's Music in N.Y. had a Heckelphone in the window for sale (I know several people who saw this). It was a complete basket case, beyond repair, and Ponte wanted  $3000 for it ! This one may be gracing the wall in an apartment in N.Y.C..  I looked almost 20 years to find my first Heckelphone. I was almost to the point of ordering a new one from Heckel, but was strongly advised not to attempt this- the older ones, in the main, are far superior.
I do know from experience that in the realm of finding an existing Heckelphone to purchase you must be quick, resolute, and let nothing stand in your way. I was glad to pay the asking price for both Heckelphones- they are amazing examples and an absolute joy to play- sastisfying beyond my wildest expectations. I will always feel like a kid in a candy store when I play these instruments. Price was the least of it (my banker caved in after half an hour of my gushing about the instrument). About a year ago, I walked into a Seattle pawn shop and saw a bassoon, in fact quite a lovely bassoon. I walked out of the shop having paid a  total of $200 U.S. ($300 Cdn.). I suspect that this sort of find just doesn't come along often enough- I am happy to have had a least a taste of it for once.

     Best wishes,
     Peter Hurd

Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 11:59:47 -0700
From: Grant Green
Subject: [CB] Contrabass Sax FS

And here's today's little budget buster:  an Orsi contrabass sax, on
ebay at
Current bid is $5,100, but I am sure you are not surprised that the
reserve has not been met ;-)  This appears to be the same horn
recently added to the classified page.



Grant Green
Professional Fool ->

From: "Peter Hurd"
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 12:07:04 -0800
Subject: [CB] Corrections & Additions - "H" List

> Dear Grant,
>         Some more additions and corrections for the Heckelphone list.
> Your efforts on behalf of the Heckelphone are greatly appreciated!!
> (ADD)      Christieb, Don    (arranger)
>                     -ACHLIEB BEI UNS HERR JESU CHRIST   (J. S. Bach)   13
winds, incl bass oboe
>                     -O GOTT DU FROMMER GOTT
>                     (Brahms)  13 winds, incl bass oboe
>                     -HERZLICH TUT MICH ERFRUEN
>                     (Brahms)  14 winds, incl bass oboe
>                     -IN DOLCE JUBILO
>                     (J.S. Bach)  14 winds, incl bass oboe
>                     -HERZLICH TUT MICH VERLANGEN
(Brahms)   11 winds, incl bass oboe
>                     -IN FESTE BURG
>                     (J.S. Bach)  13 winds, incl bass oboe
>                    - DIES SIND DIE HEIL'GEN ZEHN GEBOT
(J.S. Bach)  13 winds, incl bass oboe
> (ADD)     Broughton, Bruce
>                    - TRIO FOR OBOES   (oboe, Eh, bass oboe)
> (ADD)     Fleming, Martha
>                     - QUARTET for oboe, oboe d'amore,EH, and bass oboe
> (DELETE)       Mabry, Mark
>                      -Quintet for bass oboe and oboe quartet
>                      (I believe this is the Drake Mabry "Aria")
> (CORRECTION)     Schoenberg, Arnold
>                           (remove question marks in front of>
all entries)
> (CORRECTION)      Spevak, Michael Terrence
>            A  Trio for Heckelphone, bassoon, and contra-           >
bassoon with percussion (snare drum and timpani)
>  (DELETE)      Wagner, Richard
>                      - THE RING OF THE NIBELUNGS

> (CORRECTION)    Motion picture scores and musicals
>                              (Remove all question marks please)
>            COMPOSERS:
>             Amram, David
>             Kaper, Bronislau
>             North, Alex
>             Raksin, David
             Rosza, Milklos
>             FILMS
>          Green Mansions
>           The Manchurian Candidate
>             Oklahoma (original orchestration)
>             The Secret Garden
>             Spartacus
>              The X-men
>       Well, I guess that sums it up for the time being. I also have
amended the article, and have dropped the paragraph speculating about
Wagner's intentions for the "Ring"- I will forward the new and expanded
version in a day or two.
>  A thousand thanks once again.
>          With best wishes,
>           Peter

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