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2000-04-21

 
From: NINEWINDS@aol.com
Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 18:49:15 EDT
Subject: Re: [CB]  Immensiphone
Reply-To: contrabass@contrabass.com

Mr Ponty from Ponty's Music in New York, now long gone had a picture of this
instrument, I belive it's what you are talking about. He showed it to me and
a friend of mine. It took one person to blow into it, one person to operate
the top key mechanism and one to operate the bottom mechanism. The person who
blew into it stood on a ladder or step ladder of some sort as I remember. He
told us that the instrument was built for promotional purposes by Conn, but
was used in a pit orchestra for a broadway show in New York once or twice.
We asked him how much but he just laughed and said it probably wasn't for
sale.

Vinny Golia
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From: FOLLASRW@aol.com
Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 23:17:52 EDT
Subject: Re: [CB] [Contra digest]
Reply-To: contrabass@contrabass.com

Concerning the contrabassoon range:  The instrument speaks easily up to the C
above written middle C, or three octaves above the lowest C.  The C# above
that is easy as a trill and, with a good reed, I can play up to an E.  But
the standard range should be considered the high C.  Ravel wrote a Bb in the
Mother Goose Suite and Beethoven and Brahms wrote up to an A.  The sound is
not very good and the bassoon can do a better job in that pitch area but, for
solo writing without much accompaniment, the contrabassoon can play three
ocaves and a major second (BBb to high C).  Ron Follas
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From: "Tom Izzo" <jeanvaljean@ntsource.com>
Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 02:23:02 -0500
Subject: Re: [CB] [Contra digest]
Reply-To: contrabass@contrabass.com

> Concerning the contrabassoon range:  The instrument speaks easily up to the C
> above written middle C, or three octaves above the lowest C.  The C# above
> that is easy as a trill and, with a good reed, I can play up to an E.  But
> the standard range should be considered the high C.  Ravel wrote a Bb in the
> Mother Goose Suite and Beethoven and Brahms wrote up to an A.  The sound is
> not very good and the bassoon can do a better job in that pitch area but, for
> solo writing without much accompaniment, the contrabassoon can play three
> ocaves and a major second (BBb to high C).  Ron Follas

Ron, just for my own curiosity. I'm aware that the original term on WW of a
"Foot joint" refers to the fact that to add a low A to a Bassoon, the
intrument is approx 12" longer. Which, of course, doesn't explain why the
Flute's "B Foot" is called that even if only 1.5" long (But that's another
story). Are there any Contra's with the low A? &  if so, is a "2 foot"
joint?
 

Thanks,

Tom
Bass & Contrabass Trombonist

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Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 07:55:29 -0400
From: Edward Branham <ebb@usa.net>
Subject: Re: [CB] [Contra digest]
Reply-To: contrabass@contrabass.com

The "foot" joint is called that on any instrument, because it is at the opposite
end of the instrument from the "head".

> Ron, just for my own curiosity. I'm aware that the original term on WW of a
> "Foot joint" refers to the fact that to add a low A to a Bassoon, the
> intrument is approx 12" longer. Which, of course, doesn't explain why the
> Flute's "B Foot" is called that even if only 1.5" long (But that's another
> story). Are there any Contra's with the low A? &  if so, is a "2 foot"
> joint?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Tom
> Bass & Contrabass Trombonist

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Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 08:02:04 -0700
From: David Flager <tubadave@jps.net>
Subject: Re: [CB] [Contra digest]
Reply-To: contrabass@contrabass.com

Hey!...Grant!
How did I end up on the e-group E-list?
I was perfectly happy on the list server.

plus it looks like my input don't go to the REAL list anymore, what's up
with that?

tubadave@jps.net
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From: Opusnandy@aol.com
Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 14:09:54 EDT
Subject: Re: [CB] [Contra digest]
Reply-To: contrabass@contrabass.com

Extensions on the flute are called the foot joint because it's on the
opposite end of the instrument from the head joint.  It has nothing to do
with 12".  I've never heard the term applied to an extension on the
contrabassoon.  A few companies, including Heckel and Schreiber make contras
that extend to low A.  Moosmann even makes a contra to low Ab! (as well as a
"Fagottino" in F (a modern tenoroon)).

Jon Carreira
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Message: 1
   Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 01:39:52 -0700
   From: David Flager <tubadave@jps.net>
Subject: Re: Digest Number 2

The "Immensaphone" was more like a Gazebo that musicians stood in while
playing & the bell like roof structure would "Project" the sound into
the intended direction. sort of a trailor hitched amphitheater. I read
about this when I was in high school back in the 70s. don't ask me why I
remembered this, while I would fail American History.

tubadave@jps.net

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Message: 2
   Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 08:16:39 EDT
   From: RBobo123@aol.com
Subject: Re: MINIATURE SAXOPHONE, GOLD & PLATINUM--no

>
>  File:  contraba.zip (62355 bytes)
>  DL Time (31200 bps): < 1 minute
>
What's this?
A virus that was automatically uploaded or an actual useful picture?
I make it a point to ask when there is NO DESCRIPTION!!
Thanks!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

It's a zip file that has 5 pics (2 of the Mini Sax), 2 text files of HTML,
and a counter.  It's looks like the contents of a web page to me.  Although i
can't rule out it having a virus either as my computer has no virus scanner.
And i'm even less sure of the relevance of the mini sax to our list, or why
it's called "Contraba.zip".  Hope this helps.

-Richard Bobo (Bassoon, Tuba, Bass Guitar)
 

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Message: 3
   Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 17:24:12 EDT
   From: BARISAX942@aol.com
Subject: Re: Ophicleide

In a message dated 4/19/2000 7:24:44 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
gdgreen@contrabass.com writes:

<< >Very funny poem.
 >                                           /
 >I'm not sure how I feel about this though /()   \
 >                                               O  |
 >                                          \()   /
 >                                           \
 > >I nominate the saxophone
 > >       To be the next one banished.
 
 Just keep in mind that the poet is a horn player - they have a
 natural antipathy toward saxophones (many feel that the saxes get all
 their best parts).  ;-)
 
 Grant >>
 

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Message: 4
   Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 17:24:18 EDT
   From: BARISAX942@aol.com
Subject: Re: Ophicleide

In a message dated 4/19/2000 7:24:44 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
gdgreen@contrabass.com writes:

<< >Very funny poem.
 >                                           /
 >I'm not sure how I feel about this though /()   \
 >                                               O  |
 >                                          \()   /
 >                                           \
 > >I nominate the saxophone
 > >       To be the next one banished.
 
 Just keep in mind that the poet is a horn player - they have a
 natural antipathy toward saxophones (many feel that the saxes get all
 their best parts).  ;-)
 
 Grant >>
I would like to de-bunk that right now. I'm a saxaphonist playing mostly
bari, and I don't get anything for a part. I'm playing top notch music too.

Jeff Smith
 

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Message: 5
   Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 13:48:07 -0700
   From: Grant Green <gdgreen@contrabass.com>
Subject: Re: Ophicleide/Sax
 

> Just keep in mind that the poet is a horn player - they have a
> natural antipathy toward saxophones (many feel that the saxes get all
> their best parts).  ;-)
>
> Grant >>
>I would like to de-bunk that right now. I'm a saxaphonist playing mostly
>bari, and I don't get anything for a part. I'm playing top notch music too.
>
>Jeff Smith

True, the bari plays a different role in band (more with the bassoons
and bass clarinets).  However, if you lurk on the horn list a while,
you'll see that (right or wrong) it is their perception.

Grant

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