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2000-03-15

 
From: Heliconman@aol.com
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 19:57:57 EST
Subject: Re: [CB] another introduction
Reply-To: contrabass@contrabass.com

In a message dated 03/14/2000 8:25:09 AM Eastern Standard Time,
DPrice@uk.abtcorp.com writes:

<<  'You might WANT another Tuba, but you don't NEED one.'
 Has anybody out there successfully won against such an onslaught of 'logic'?
 All advice will be gratefully received.
 Dave.  >>

Is it YOUR money? Do what ya wanna! You only live once!
She'll respect you for having a backbone! She'll get over it.
She might WANT all your money, but she doesn't NEED all your money!
You can also tell her you got it really cheaply!
She might WANT to know all, but she doesn't NEED to know all!

Just my opinion. Not worth a dime. Forget everything I said!
It's all up to you!
Live!
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From: "Leanne Enck" <kontragirl@hotmail.com>
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 18:31:59 MST
Subject: Re: [CB] Reeds
Reply-To: contrabass@contrabass.com
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I play bass sax and I found a box of reeds that's made for contra-alto
clarinet, contrabass clarinet and bass sax.
 

That's all I use on my contralto clarinet.  I can't stand my sound with a
bari sax reed!

Leanne, the omnipotent contralto clarinetist.
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Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 17:40:02 -0700
From: Grant Green <gdgreen@contrabass.com>
Subject: RE: [CB] Instrument Acquisition Strategy
Reply-To: contrabass@contrabass.com

>I would dearly love a Rudy Meinl CC Tuba and a Selmer Bass Sax to add to my
>current instruments but having made the fatal mistake of marrying an
>accountant, I find that although the money is seemingly there to buy them, I
>don't seem to have the necessary authorisation to with it.

Two suggestions:
(1)  Submit a proposal for "tools - musical.  Present tools are
capable of accomplishing only a portion of the range of pitch and
timbre necessary: additional tools will accomplish the range
expansion desired.  Present tools will still be retained, however, as
they are needed for expansion, rather than merely shifting, the
range."

(2)  It could be pointed out that most of us buy many things that we
desire but don't *need*, and that entertainment is considered a valid
purpose and expense for most humans.  If one amortizes the expense of
a good horn over its expected lifetime (and consider that some of us
are playing horns made in 1870-1920), let's say 50+ years (we're not
talking about oboes - sorry Robert!), I'd guess that the annual
expense is probably equivalent to a year's TV license, or possibly a
year's worth of video rentals.  Not that you are suggesting to
*replace* the TV or VCR with a bass sax - it just demonstrates that
the actual outlay is a reasonable amount to spend on entertainment.
Additionally, the form of entertainment you are proposing is (i)
healthful and mentally stimulating (OK, so don't mention the
beers...), and (ii) the assets acquired do not depreciate to zero,
and in some cases will actually appreciate.

You might guess I've been through this a few times ;-)  Although my
wife is not an accountant, she is an attorney, which I'm not sure is
better.  Her current opposition is that our house is not large enough
to *contain* the instruments.  Did I mention we're having our house
remodeled?....

Best of luck!

Grant

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Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 21:11:53 -0800
From: jim & joyce <lande@erols.com>
Subject: [CB] Metal Albert Clarinet
Reply-To: contrabass@contrabass.com

I asw the posting on eBay would would have bid if the price
didn't get so high.  I assumed from the posting that all the pads
were bad and that at a minimum, the tenon corks would need to be
replaced before anyone could get a sound out of it.  Low pitch
means low pitch and has nothing to do with how it sounds.  Albert
system Bb clarinets that are a little over 26 inches with
mouthpice are low pitch.  Ones closer to 25 inches are high
pitch.  I assumed the comment about 'lovely tone' was based on
someone's recollection of the horn.

I asked questions to determine whether the horn was repairable,
not whether it currently played.  Specifically, I wanted to know
if all keys pressed down easily?  And then sprang back easily?
Aside from the seven finger holes, did each hole have a key over
it? Were all of the pad cups even with the holes they cover?
Were any pad cups bent?  Was there any sign of previous repair?

Bid in haste, repent at your leasure.  Or offer it to runner up
bidders.

Jim lande

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Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 22:48:56 -0500
From: Katherine Thompson <thomkater@mediaone.net>
Subject: Re: [CB] Robert Howe's question
Reply-To: contrabass@contrabass.com

For Robert Howe, who asked about contrabass/contraalto clarinet mouthpieces: I have a Vito contrabass clarinet and I've learned that Vito/ Leblanc has one mouthpiece size for both contrabass and contraalto clarinets. Selmer/ Bundy, on the other hand, uses different sized mouthpieces for each of these low clarinets. You can order a mouthpiece online (I think woodwind-brasswinds is where I saw them) for less than $200. Good luck.
Katherine Thompson

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From: "Musicstudents.com" <jonsmith@access1.net>
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 13:34:13 -0800
Subject: [CB] vito
Reply-To: contrabass@contrabass.com

Dana,

So, how do you like the Vito conta-alto?

I have a Vito contrabass, and I like it. I can get up to high F with good control.

I am thinking of getting the Vito contra-alto.

I heard of a Selmer wood for sale, though. tempting.

Jonathan
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From: MusicDayDream@aol.com
Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 05:55:01 EST
Subject: Re: [CB] vito
Reply-To: contrabass@contrabass.com

Hey!

Honestly...i really dont like it.  I learned how to play contra alto on this
*awsome* LeBlanc one that was my band teachers friends personal instrument.
I looked it up cuz i want to get the same one and it cots$7500 from
giardinelli which usually has pretty low prices cuz music stores order from
there.  Then when i got the new vito it just worked like crap for me....i
mean it was brand new and neeeded to be broken in...but about every 2 weeks
something goes wrong with it and the sound quality of this is is horrible
compared to the LeBlanc.  I looked up how much the Vito i used and it costed
$1700....i think the price factor may have had something to do with it.  I
still love playin contra alto...but i cant wait to get my LeBlanc.  Does
anyone here own a LeBlanc Contra Alto?  The one im going to purchase in a few
months has the extra keys to go down to a low C rather than just an Eb....so
it would sort of make it to the equivalent of a contra bass.

Lotsa peace n lovin
dana
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Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 14:10:26 +0000 (GMT)
From: Dafydd y garreg wen <mavnw@csv.warwick.ac.uk>
Subject: [CB] Contrabass trombones
Reply-To: contrabass@contrabass.com

Yesterday I had the opportunity to try out a Salvation Army contrabass
trombone - it blew like something had died inside, and the slide was
unprecedently sticky, but my curiosity was piqued by the
manufacturer; apparently only a few were ever made (you can really see
why, when you try to play it), and I hadn't heard of anything like this
before.

Dave Taylor
 

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Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 11:45:23 -0500
From: Katherine Thompson <thomkater@mediaone.net>
Subject: Re: [CB] contrabass clar. mouthpieces
Reply-To: contrabass@contrabass.com

More for Robert Howe:

The web address I used to check out contra mouthpieces was wwandbw.com. This gives you Woodwind and Brasswind's catalog. Page 59 of the catalog lists the Bundy contraalto mouthpiece for $39.95 and the Selmer for $122.95. I think either of these will fit your instrument.
Katherine Thompson

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Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 11:08:46 -0700
From: Grant Green <gdgreen@contrabass.com>
Subject: Re: [CB] Vito
Reply-To: contrabass@contrabass.com

>Honestly...i really dont like it.  I learned how to play contra alto on this
>*awsome* LeBlanc one that was my band teachers friends personal instrument.
>I looked it up cuz i want to get the same one and it cots$7500 from
>giardinelli which usually has pretty low prices cuz music stores order from

Try telephoning the Woodwind & Brasswind - they usually have better
prices.  For $6995, they'll send you a Leblanc 340 Bb *contrabass*,
with range to low C.  I'm sure the model 350 contralto with range to
low C would be less than that.  They have the Vito contralto for
$1415.

I haven't tried the Leblanc contralto: I have an old Buescher Eb
contralto, which seems to work pretty well.

>anyone here own a LeBlanc Contra Alto?  The one im going to purchase in a few
>months has the extra keys to go down to a low C rather than just an Eb....so
>it would sort of make it to the equivalent of a contra bass.

Yes, the extended contralto hits concert Eb1, just one step shy of
the Bb contrabass's concert Db1 (non-extended).  Of course, the
extended contrabass hits Bb0...

Enjoy!

Grant

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Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 11:12:26 -0700
From: Grant Green <gdgreen@contrabass.com>
Subject: Re: [CB] Reeds
Reply-To: contrabass@contrabass.com

>I play bass sax and I found a box of reeds that's made for contra-alto
>clarinet, contrabass clarinet and bass sax.

Speaking of reeds, I just received a card in the mail yesterday from
WW&BW (yes, I know, it sounds like WW&BW day..., and no, I don't get
a cut...).  They're having a "Reed Sale", all reeds at 1999 prices,
and $1.00 S&H on 2+ boxes of reeds.  Also, Selmer saxes, Buffet
clarinets, and "all our most popular flutes" at 1999 prices.  I think
a sale is really "things at reduced prices" rather than "things at
their current price before we raise them", but I suppose the $1
shipping for N number of reeds counts for something...

Grant

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From: Heliconman@aol.com
Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 15:55:11 EST
Subject: Re: [CB] Contrabass trombones
Reply-To: contrabass@contrabass.com

In a message dated 03/15/2000 9:13:17 AM Eastern Standard Time,
mavnw@csv.warwick.ac.uk writes:

<< Yesterday I had the opportunity to try out a Salvation Army contrabass
 trombone - it blew like something had died inside, and the slide was
 unprecedently sticky, but my curiosity was piqued by the
 manufacturer; apparently only a few were ever made (you can really see
 why, when you try to play it), and I hadn't heard of anything like this
before.  >>

You think maybe it needed a good cleaning? Maybe there WAS something in
there! I tried a Huttl euphonium one time that was very stuffy. I gave it a
few good hard puffs and out pops an antique marble. I also played a gig one
time where my trombone was really crappy sounding and after about 5 minutes
the slide seized up. I thought it was because I had just come in from below
freezing weather and hadn't warmed up, but after I carefully pulled the slide
out, it turned out to be a wooden chopstick I'd been using as a percussion
beater. What a relief!
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Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 13:15:58 -0700
From: Grant Green <gdgreen@contrabass.com>
Subject: Re: [CB] Stuffy(ed) horns
Reply-To: contrabass@contrabass.com

>You think maybe it needed a good cleaning? Maybe there WAS something in
>there! I tried a Huttl euphonium one time that was very stuffy. I gave it a
>few good hard puffs and out pops an antique marble. I also played a gig one
>time where my trombone was really crappy sounding and after about 5 minutes
>the slide seized up. I thought it was because I had just come in from below
>freezing weather and hadn't warmed up, but after I carefully pulled the slide
>out, it turned out to be a wooden chopstick I'd been using as a percussion
>beater. What a relief!

When my Eb contrabass sarrusophone came back from the shop the first
time (replacing a number of pads and springs), it played fine  -
except for the bottom couple notes.  I finally looked in the bell,
and found a box of reeds that the prior owner had stashed there!
 

Plays better now...

Grant

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From: "Musicstudents.com" <jonsmith@access1.net>
Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 15:00:24 -0800
Subject: [CB] Selmer Model 40 contra-alto
Reply-To: contrabass@contrabass.com

So,

what do you guys think of the Selmer Model 40 Contra-alto?

To me it sounds like the ultimate.
 

Jonathan
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