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2000-03-16

 
Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 18:48:15 -0500
From: Topper <leo_g@carroll.com>
Subject: [CB] Sub Traumaphone parts at Ebay!
Reply-To: contrabass@contrabass.com

http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=284753465

Cheers, Leo
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Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 18:50:33 -0500
From: Topper <leo_g@carroll.com>
Subject: Re: [CB] Sub Traumaphone parts at Ebay!
Reply-To: contrabass@contrabass.com

well it might have worked if I spelled it right. :^)

Cheers, Leo
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From: LeliaLoban@aol.com
Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 20:24:47 EST
Subject: [CB] Stuffy(ed) horns
Reply-To: contrabass@contrabass.com

 mavnw@csv.warwick.ac.uk wrote,
<< Yesterday I had the opportunity to try out a Salvation Army contrabass
trombone - it blew like something had died inside....>>

Maybe something did.  Or maybe something didn't and you were trying to play
somebody's house.  I've poured dead bugs, dust bunnies and lots of small
detritus such as paper clips out of old instruments (in fact, somewhere in
this mess I've kept a catalogue of whatnots and different species of insects
and arachnids I've found), but my favorite find (not), in the bell of a
saxophone, was a meaty, fist-sized fungus that seemed very much alive when I
evicted it.  Once I found Shadow Cat curled up in the bell of my bass sax,
but I guess she doesn't count, since she didn't come with the sax.

Grant Green wrote,
>When my Eb contrabass sarrusophone came back from the shop the first time
(replacing a number of pads and springs), it played fine  -  except for the
bottom couple notes.  I finally looked in the bell,
and found a box of reeds that the prior owner had stashed there!>

I bought a used sax from the 1920s that made unexplained and un-saxlike
noises.  An old, hard rubber clarinet mouthpiece was wedged in the upper
stack.  The mouthpiece turns out to be the best I've ever played on my 1937
clarinet!

Lelia
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From: LeliaLoban@aol.com
Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 20:42:21 EST
Subject: Co-opting spouses (was:  [CB] another introduction)
Reply-To: contrabass@contrabass.com

David Taylor wrote,
>I would dearly love a Rudy Meinl CC Tuba and a Selmer Bass Sax to add to my
current instruments but having made the fatal mistake of marrying an
accountant, I find that although the money is seemingly there to buy them, I
don't seem to have the necessary authorisation to with it.>

>'Where's your justification?'>

>'Why could you possible need two big saxophones?'>

>'You can have another one only if you sell one of the existing intruments.'>

I think that spouses of people who play Big Things all take a premarital
class where they learn these lines.  There's some sort of precognition
involved, since the lines are all memorized and ready to go the *very first
time* a large bass instrument invades the domicile and begins lumbering
around, bellowing and grunting at inconvenient hours and squatting in
inconvenient places.

>.... and then the lesson in the English language.....>

>'You might WANT another Tuba, but you don't NEED one.'>

>Has anybody out there successfully won against such an onslaught of 'logic'?>

No.

Since logic has never served me well in this situation, I have learned to
avoid logic.  For example, I can't "justify" so much as a soprano recorder,
since I don't play professionally or even play in amateur groups.  Still less
can I justify the hulking bass sax, its crane-like support stand or its case
that would fill the whole back seat of the car since all I do with it is
entertain the cat.  Instead of attempting to argue logically from this weak
position, I barter.

The way I answer, "You don't NEED another...." is, "You're absolutely right.
We have way too much stuff.  Okay, I'll promise not to buy a bass
behemothophone, if you'll promise not to bring home a [insert Kevin's heart's
desire here]."  The trick is to promise never to buy something you never
intended to buy anyway.  I don't happen to want a bass behemothophone right
now, since there's no such thing (although Kevin, being a violinist, wouldn't
know that, I hope...).  I lurk in wait until Kevin *finds* an object of his
desire and then I say generously, "I won't make a fuss about it.  Why don't
you go ahead and buy it, since you want it so much."  Aha, but I keep score.
Sooner or later, I'll find a contrabass clarinet or a baritone sax, and then
I'll remind Kevin of how nice I was not to buy the bass behemothaphone and
how nice I was about the enormous hot-stamp press he lugged home and
installed on the work bench we share.

Oh, here's another good tactic.  If you make sure to squirrel away extra
things in advance (closets in the guest bedroom make good hiding places even
for fairly big stuff), then you can magnanimously agree or even *volunteer*
to get rid of things:  "I'll sell a C-Melody sax if you'll sell a...."  The
key here is to think out in advance what to ask Kevin to equate with
something I don't really care about. I try to suggest that he discard
something that would really hurt.  When he indignantly declines to get rid of
his Precious, I now hold the moral high ground.  Well, maybe a small hillock
within long-range scanning distance of the moral high ground.  Close enough
to get the discussion tabled for the time being, usually.

My third C-Melody sax was so cheap that I only pretended to lust after it,
when in fact I bought it to hold down a chunk of territory.  It will make a
bargaining chip that I can cheerfully offer to sell later, when I find
something I really want that can occupy roughly the same space, or -- well,
no more than twice as much space, anyhow -- enough space for the bass
clarinet or the baritone sax I haven't found yet.  This type of bartering can
have the salutary effect of leading couples actually to get rid of the things
that create the worst clutter because they matter the least, since
occasionally a spouse will unexpectedly agree to one of these bargains.

Last summer, for instance, I sold an alto sax (a stencil Buescher with
keywork inconvenient for my small hands), while Kevin sold an approximately
equal tonnage of duplicate tools.  It's true that I suspect the duplicate
pipe wrenches and so forth that he "couldn't resist" at yard sales and agreed
to dump at our yard sale were actually *his* bargaining chips, but at any
rate we are rid of both excess tools and excess alto sax and therefore happy
with each other and righteously self-congratulatory, too.  Thus does a
marriage last for thirty years and appear to be marching in lockstep down the
yellow brick road toward Happily Ever After, or toward the Nut House.  Pick
one.

Lelia
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Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 17:58:39 -0800 (PST)
From: LynnEttte Mueller <bluwinterfox@yahoo.com>
Subject: [CB] Owner of a Leblanc Contra-alto
Reply-To: contrabass@contrabass.com

>Does anyone here own a LeBlanc Contra Alto?  The one im going to purchase
>in a few months has the extra keys to go down to a low C rather than just
>an Eb....so it would sort of make it to the equivalent of a contra bass.

I own a LeBlanc Contra-alto.  I've named it grandpa.  My husband gave me
grandpa for a Christmas present.  We had it appraised for insurance
reasons, and the appraisal was $8,000.00.  I'm not sure what he paid for
it, but when I asked if it was more than I paid for my oboe, he said a bit
more.  I paid $900.00 for my oboe. Both my oboe and contra-alto were
purchased from the same music store, which is my opinion is the safest
thing to do.

Sound wise my LeBlanc has a more mellow tone than the Bundy did.  I'm not
sure if it's the instrument or if it's because I'm older and a better
musician.
 
 

=====
LynnEtte Mueller

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and the soul to fly

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Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 18:17:46 -0800
From: David Flager <tubadave@jps.net>
Subject: Re: [CB] [Contra digest]
Reply-To: contrabass@contrabass.com
 

You might guess I've been through this a few times ;-)  Although my
wife is not an accountant, she is an attorney, which I'm not sure is
better.  Her current opposition is that our house is not large enough
to *contain* the instruments.  Did I mention we're having our house
remodeled?....


Best of luck!

Grant

Yes but you are BOTH attorneys so it equals out. Now you just need a
jury. let her choose her half of the jury, ha!
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Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 18:23:16 -0800
From: David Flager <tubadave@jps.net>
Subject: Re: [CB] [Contra digest]
Reply-To: contrabass@contrabass.com
 

looked in the bell,
and found a box of reeds that the prior owner had stashed there!

Plays better now...

Ha! Thanks for the chuckle, same thing happened to me except it was a
harmonica I found inside a C melody Saxophone. weird storage place.
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Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 21:43:48 -0800
From: jim & joyce <lande@erols.com>
Subject: [CB] You need that tuba
Reply-To: contrabass@contrabass.com

<<  'You might WANT another Tuba, but you don't
<<  NEED one.'   Has anybody out there successfully won
>>  against such an onslaught of 'logic'?
<< All advice will be gratefully received.
>> Dave.  >>

Buy first, explain later.
13      Cats love to sleep in these things, but it would be cruel to  have only one kitten who is home all day alone by itself.
12      One will be left handed, (as soon as you save up enough for the very very expensive modifications.)
11.    You plan to use the old one as a solar oven for camping trips.
10.    Think His and Hers tubas
  9     hedge against inflation
  8     Ttemporary repair for hole in hedge
  7     Rain catcher during drought
  6     The mother of all hood orniments
  5     Cheaper than a shrink (unless she has you committed.)
  4     "But you said to get a tuba toothpaste...."
  3     You need one at work for when you need to let off steam.
  2      Sometimes one gets misplaced.
  1      Think kids, think science project, think a mile of string and the biggest tin can telephones ever
 

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Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 06:54:12 -0500
From: michael c grogg <mgrogg@juno.com>
Subject: Re: [CB] Contrabass trombones
Reply-To: contrabass@contrabass.com

> Yesterday I had the opportunity to try out a Salvation Army
> contrabass  trombone - it blew like something had died inside, and the slide was
> unprecedently sticky, but my curiosity was piqued by the
> manufacturer; apparently only a few were ever made (you can really
> see  why, when you try to play it), and I hadn't heard of anything like
> this before.
 

The Salvation Army had a Instrument Manufactory in England for a period
of years in the early part of the past century.  It later ended up part
of the Boosey company that then joined Hawkes and acquired Besson along
the way.

Was this a true Contrabass in BBb or a English style Bass trombone with
the broomhandle extension  on the slide?  The large Bass trombones were
fairly common, I had not heard of an English made Contrabass either.

Michael
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Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 23:46:08 -0500
From: Abi Tenenbaum <abi@brandeis.edu>
Subject: Re: [CB] Sub Traumaphone parts at Ebay!
Reply-To: contrabass@contrabass.com

Not a brass player myself, but it just looks like such a sad
instrument... :-(

Topper wrote:
> http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=284753465
>
> Cheers, Leo
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From: "....rich haynes" <rich_haynes@hotmail.com>
Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 16:11:02 EST
Subject: [CB] contra stuff
Reply-To: contrabass@contrabass.com

hey!
just a quick intro:
ive been on here for a while, just "observing the conversation"....the whole
millenium biz was quite amusing! anyway, yeah i play contrabass clarinet,
bass clarinet and the rest of the family and a bit of bari sax when needed
here and there....i also do a lot of composing -usually exploiting our
beloved contra-category instruments....but yeah this discussion thing is
fantastic grant!
what i was gonna ask was is there much contrabass clt solo/small ensemble
music out there? i would mind finally doing a bit of solo work on it....
before i go, grab a copy of a cd by 'bang on a can' theres some kickass bass
clt stuff(alas no contra!) on it...but if you want excitiment, dont get the
'music for airports' one....
rich.

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From: "Sarah Cordish" <cordish@inter.net.il>
Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 12:24:03 +0200
Subject: [CB] Logic and Contrabass Mania
Reply-To: contrabass@contrabass.com

> David Taylor wrote,
> >I would dearly love a Rudy Meinl CC Tuba and a Selmer Bass Sax to add to my
> current instruments but having made the fatal mistake of marrying an
> accountant, I find that although the money is seemingly there to buy them, I
> don't seem to have the necessary authorisation to with it.>
>
> >'Where's your justification?'>
>
> >'Why could you possible need two big saxophones?'>
>
> >'You can have another one only if you sell one of the existing intruments.'>

> >.... and then the lesson in the English language.....>
>
> >'You might WANT another Tuba, but you don't NEED one.'>
>
> >Has anybody out there successfully won against such an onslaught of 'logic'?>

Your wife is wrong. Do not underestimate how much you NEED them.  ALL
of them.  You will suffer if the ones you have are ''amputated''.  Ask
her if she wants you to live out your time.  You need food, water,
oxygen, and tubas and saxophones.  This is your body chemistry.

Sarah

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From: "Colin Harris" <charris@rocketscience-crm.co.uk>
Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 11:15:40 -0000
Subject: RE: [CB] Contrabass trombones
Reply-To: contrabass@contrabass.com

Come on Dave!! Give us the specs of the best - G or F, trigger age etc.

Magic!

-----Original Message-----
Yesterday I had the opportunity to try out a Salvation Army contrabass
trombone - it blew like something had died inside, and the slide was
unprecedently sticky, but my curiosity was piqued by the
manufacturer; apparently only a few were ever made (you can really see
why, when you try to play it), and I hadn't heard of anything like this
before.

Dave Taylor
 

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Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 12:30:12 +0000 (GMT)
From: Dafydd y garreg wen <mavnw@csv.warwick.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: Co-opting spouses (was:  [CB] another introduction)
Reply-To: contrabass@contrabass.com

On Wed, 15 Mar 2000 LeliaLoban@aol.com wrote:
> David Taylor wrote,

Not me, I'm innocent! I think it was David Price.

> >I would dearly love a Rudy Meinl CC Tuba and a Selmer Bass Sax to add to my
> current instruments but having made the fatal mistake of marrying an
> accountant, I find that although the money is seemingly there to buy them, I
> don't seem to have the necessary authorisation to with it.>

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Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 12:49:04 +0000 (GMT)
From: Dafydd y garreg wen <mavnw@csv.warwick.ac.uk>
Subject: RE: [CB] Contrabass trombones
Reply-To: contrabass@contrabass.com

On Thu, 16 Mar 2000, Colin Harris wrote:

> Come on Dave!! Give us the specs of the best - G or F, trigger age etc.
>
> Magic!

It's actually a true contrabass instrument - in BBb with a double slide of
the same length as a normal tenor single slide. No thumb valves. There are
a couple of curls in the behind-the-head bit of the tube to keep the
overall length down. I don't know the age, but I think that it's about the
turn of the 19th/20th centuries. It's stored at:-

Musical Instrument Repairs,
Hereward Rise,
Halesowen,
West Midlands,
B62 8AN.

Telephone 0121 550 9707 (from inside the British Isles).

I don't think that there actually is anything inside it; it was just that
the tube was too curled up, and the bore too narrow to actually achieve
any sort of worthwhile sound; it was rather like blowing on a long hose
(of which I have experience). In fact the best note was the Pedal
BBb. It's in a room with an assortment of other oddities such as echo
cornets and Euphonia with five valves and forward facing bells (no forward
facing baritones though, Chuck). I'm not sure if they've got a web site or
not.

Dave

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From: "BROCK IMISON" <bimison@hotmail.com>
Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 04:52:57 PST
Subject: [CB] dideridoo???
Reply-To: contrabass@contrabass.com

Being Australian, I'm totally mystified by the number of didgeridoos, and
digeridoo players getting around in the states. I often have a little
chuckle to myself when I read postings about avid supporters of the
instrument from different countries. In Australia, the didgeridoo is solely
an instrument played by indigenous Aborigines. As far as I know the proper
art of playing the didge' is past down only by elders in a family
group--which I think rules out the possibility of a "Learn to Play the
Didgeridoo-vol.1" book on the market.

It seems strange to me that other nations have embraced an instrument
(sorry, I'm not trying to hurt anyone's feelings) they can't possibly know
anything about (though I did hear that you guys in the states are the world
champs at boomerang throwing). The other thing is, where do you get your
instruments from???? I don't think Yamaha would stock them.

All this reminds me of one of my Japanese friends busting into a fit of
laughs when I told her that you can take ninjitsu classes in Australia,
apparently ninjitsu died out hundreds of years ago in Japan, leaving only a
trace of its existence in manga cartoons.

a little bewildered,
Brock Imison.
Brisbane. Australia.

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Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 12:56:38 +0000 (GMT)
From: Dafydd y garreg wen <mavnw@csv.warwick.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: [CB] Contrabass trombones
Reply-To: contrabass@contrabass.com

On Wed, 15 Mar 2000, michael c grogg wrote:

> The Salvation Army had a Instrument Manufactory in England for a period
> of years in the early part of the past century.  It later ended up part
> of the Boosey company that then joined Hawkes and acquired Besson along
> the way.
>
> Was this a true Contrabass in BBb or a English style Bass trombone with
> the broomhandle extension  on the slide?  The large Bass trombones were
> fairly common, I had not heard of an English made Contrabass either.

A true contrabass; not simply a bass in G [see my other reply].
In 'The Brass Band movement in the 19th and 20th centuries' by Trevor
Herbert, it mentions a contest (at Crystal Palace I think) in the mid 19th
century, where the best instrumentalist prize was won by a contrabass
trombonist. It describes this instrument as 'unique'.
G trombones used to be common, but have now disappeared to the extent that
I can't find one to buy at all now.

Dave
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From: "....rich haynes" <rich_haynes@hotmail.com>
Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 23:39:56 EST
Subject: Re: [CB] dideridoo???
Reply-To: contrabass@contrabass.com

from another australian, yeah what youre sayin brock is totally true and
utterly mystifying as you put it! its weird then to think that everyone
overseas is rapt in it and yet what do we care about it? mabye we should
utilise it more and not regard it so much as an instrument of a (seemingly)
sub-culture. someone could make a lot of money!
didnt someone like phil braccanin write a didg concerto?
rich.

----Original Message Follows----
From: "BROCK IMISON" <bimison@hotmail.com>
Subject: [CB] dideridoo???
Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 04:52:57 PST

Being Australian, I'm totally mystified by the number of didgeridoos, and
digeridoo players getting around in the states. I often have a little
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From: Heliconman@aol.com
Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 10:51:03 EST
Subject: Re: [CB] Contrabass trombones
Reply-To: contrabass@contrabass.com

In a message dated 03/16/2000 7:51:23 AM Eastern Standard Time,
mavnw@csv.warwick.ac.uk writes:

<< I don't think that there actually is anything inside it; it was just that
 the tube was too curled up, and the bore too narrow to actually achieve
 any sort of worthwhile sound; it was rather like blowing on a long hose
 (of which I have experience). >>

Sounds similar to a Mirafone cimbasso I played (sort of a 5 valve bass valve
trombone). It just had too much "radiator" to blow freely. Looked impressive
but it had a very stuffy sound!
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Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 11:23:52 -0500 (EST)
From: <burzy@drizzle.com>
Subject: [CB] tromba marina
Reply-To: contrabass@contrabass.com

hey gang...there was a request for information about the elusive
tromba marina on the oddmusic list lately and i was hoping someone on
this list may know about it...any help?
thanks, mark s.

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From: Heliconman@aol.com
Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 11:27:22 EST
Subject: Re: [CB] dideridoo???
Reply-To: contrabass@contrabass.com

In a message dated 03/16/2000 8:41:40 AM Eastern Standard Time,
rich_haynes@hotmail.com writes:

<< from another australian, yeah what youre sayin brock is totally true and
 utterly mystifying as you put it! its weird then to think that everyone
 overseas is rapt in it and yet what do we care about it? maybe we should
 utilise it more and not regard it so much as an instrument of a (seemingly)
 sub-culture. someone could make a lot of money! >>

Well, here in the states, one "sub-culture" that has taken to it very
strongly is the "jam band" culture who typically follow the Grateful Dead and
Phish and Dave Mathews Band and the like and travel to large music festivals
where you go for 2 or 3 days, camp out, party your ass off and jam around the
campsite in a very tribal sort of way reminiscent of the Aboriginal or
African or Native American Indian tribes, complete with builing a bonfire and
dancing circles around it, throwing everything including your own shirt into
the fire. As a local stagehand, I saw a few of these festivals go through
town and there always seemed to be a didge dealer and frequently didge
workshops going on. the instruments in the States range in quality from
decorated PVC pipe to authentic looking rustic wooden ones made of various
qualities and hardnesses of wood. There seem to be a few instructional videos
on How To Play the Didge too. The most interesting variation I've seen is the
Didge Drum which is a combination didge and tambour-like hand drum which has
the head tuned to the same pitch as the ceramic circular didge/frame. I'm
thinking about buying one of these myself. I will occasionally use the
"double-stop" technique on my trombone & tuba and if I understand correctly,
this is the basis for the didge sound.
 Just so I don't offend any didge players, there are OTHER types of musicians
who have taken an interest in the instrument, but this "tribal jam band"
culture is where I mostly se the didge being used. Use your imagination! It's
good to know the roots of a music or instrument but it's fun to be creative
and be non-traditional. Combine a didge, a vocoder/theremin combination, a
glockenspiel, a bass harmonica and a harpsichord and just go nuts with it!
Just stop and think about the sonic possibilities of THAT for a while!

Heliconman@aol.com

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....What's-His-Name.
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From: "Price, David" <DPrice@uk.abtcorp.com>
Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 17:20:09 -0000
Subject: RE: Co-opting spouses (was:  [CB] another introduction)
Reply-To: contrabass@contrabass.com

 Lelia.

 'Twas I, David Price, not David Taylor, but maybe he shares the same
issues too???

 Wow, what an insight into the female psyche!

 I think that we (the down trodden male), always knew that we were
being manipulated somewhere along the line but could never quite put our
fingers on how and when. Now we know.

 Unfortunately in my case her hobbies mostly revolve around
handicrafts - 'stitching' of all types for instance.

 I have tried the tack that you suggest of trading one 'want' or
'need' against another but am always brought to ground again on the relative
costs involved. (That's the Accountant in her coming out again).

 The cost of her 'needs', she always points out, are miniscule when
compared to mine. A complete set of new DMC threads can probably be had for
the cost of a (much 'needed' of course), new mouthpiece. Silks also only
take up drawer space whereas additional bass instruments take up another
third of the hall.

 At that point the holiday to Barbados usually gets thrown in (by
her), as it is about the same cost for us in the UK as a Rudy Meinl CC would
be and I get told that all the instruments would have to be stored out in
the garage. (Why should I have to play out in the cold whilst she can sit
and stitch in the warm?).

 Unfortunately I think that I need a bit more in the coffers so that
I know that there would be sufficient headroom (after committing to both a
holiday in the West Indies AND buying another instrument), to cover those
unexpected bills that always seem to turn up just when you don't have any
money.

 Dave.
 

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From: "George Wright" <geo@loyola.edu>
Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 13:58:57 -0500
Subject: RE: Co-opting spouses (was:  [CB] another introduction)
Reply-To: contrabass@contrabass.com

> -----Original Message-----
> From: contrabass-owner@contrabass.com
> [mailto:contrabass-owner@contrabass.com]On Behalf Of LeliaLoban@aol.com
> Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2000 8:42 PM
> To: contrabass@contrabass.com
> Subject: Co-opting spouses (was: [CB] another introduction)

Great message, Lelia!

> >Has anybody out there successfully won against such an onslaught
> of 'logic'?>
>
> No.
>
> Since logic has never served me well in this situation, I have learned to
> avoid logic.  For example, I can't "justify" so much as a soprano
> recorder,
> since I don't play professionally or even play in amateur groups.

I find that playing in an amateur group is just the excuse I need.

I play baritone sax in an 18-piece big band and bass sax in its Dixieland
subset.  We play twice a month for little or no money at the local Holiday
Inn, but this gets us the Christmas party and wedding reception gigs---the
paying jobs.

OK, so I get this stream of untaxed income from these jobs.  Well, I have to
offset it for tax purposes, right?  So my policy is to recycle all band
income into band expenses---more musical toys!  (Of course, it's not all
that much.  Anything split 18 ways gets small fast.)

The downside for me becomes the time spent at performance and rehearsals.
My wife doesn't resent the closet full of old Buescher saxes; she resents
Sunday night rehearsals and ``date night'' jobs.

I tell her it's better than if I were out drinking with the boys.  (Believe
it or not, the band has a strict no-alcohol-on-the-job policy, which always
astounds bartenders at wedding receptions.)  What do you think, Lelia, would
you buy that :-)?  Any better lines you might suggest?

Geo

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From: MusicDayDream@aol.com
Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 15:21:10 EST
Subject: Re: [CB] contra stuff
Reply-To: contrabass@contrabass.com

I play the contra alto and im doing a level 6 auditioning for all state this
year, there isnt much music that i could find.  In the nyssma manual under
level 6 two of them is out of print, the other which i sent away for has to
be imported and i wont get till the end of june...i ordered it in january :c)
 lol.  If you are lookin to play in a small group...its awsome playin contra
alto in a clarinet choir, and they actually make quite a few pieces for
clarinet choirs :c)  I recently purchased: Water Music, Dedocaphonic
Essay(del borgo), Italian in Algiers, and Musicale(Uber).  Has anyone played
these pieces in a clarinet choir?

Lotsa peace n lovin
dana
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From: MusicDayDream@aol.com
Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 15:35:27 EST
Subject: Re: [CB] dideridoo???
Reply-To: contrabass@contrabass.com

Hey i have a question...i thought it was spely Didgeridoo?
 

Anyways...im into the whole "jam band" scene.  Let me tell you all..its
awsome!  What i love so much is the amount of love on the scene...everyone
just accepts everyone.  Drum circles also get pretty intense.  See i think
most of the people probably think like me...or atleast a little :c)  I *love*
music...all aspects of it.  Music is my way to express every single emotion.
I love to play my contra alto with symphonic style bands and my clarinet
choir....but i also love the more earthy instruments.  Like things that
arent....well...as processed, i guess i wanna say.  Hearing a clarinet is
cool, but hearing hand drums and wooden flutes and didgeridoos just makes me
think of sitting jamming with my buddies out in the wilderness.  Like i love
all natural or hand made instruments because they have a "real" sound to
them...they sound like the earth singing to me.  I think the reason that in
the "jamband" scene they are all so popular is because everyone is soo much
more down to earth.

Maybe i helped to answer the curiosity...or maybe i just rambled again :c)

Lotsa peace n lovin
dana
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From: MusicDayDream@aol.com
Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 15:38:31 EST
Subject: [CB] oops...
Reply-To: contrabass@contrabass.com

hey...in that last email on didgeridoo's...what i meant to say was:

"Hey i have a question...i thought it was spelled Didgeridoo?"
 

lotsa peace n lovin
dana
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Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 12:29:51 -0700
From: Grant Green <gdgreen@contrabass.com>
Subject: Re: [CB] Selmer Eb CA clarinet mpc needed
Reply-To: contrabass@contrabass.com

>no mpc or peg.  The peg I have supplied.  Can anyone sell me a correct
>mpc for this puppy?  My Bb CB mpcs do NOT fit, their tenons are too
>large for the receiver socket.  On my instrument this socket measures 20
>mm deep and 32 mm across.

The Woodwind & Brasswind carries the Selmer contralto mpc, SE204(C,
C*, or C**) for $122.95.

Grant

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Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 15:10:31 -0600
From: "Aaron J. Rabushka" <arabushk@cowtown.net>
Subject: Re: [CB] contra stuff
Reply-To: contrabass@contrabass.com

As long as you're lookin' for clarinet choir music I'd like to suggest my own Threnody, op. 6. It calls for three b-flat soprano clarinets and one each e-flat alto, b-flat bass, and ee-flat contra-alto.

--
Aaron J. Rabushka
arabushk@cowtown.net
http://www.cowtown.net/users/arabushk
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From: "Spencer Parks" <ilylamp@hotmail.com>
Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 16:43:42 CST
Subject: Re: [CB] dideridoo???
Reply-To: contrabass@contrabass.com

I know three people who have didgeridoos.  One of them lived in New Zealand
for a year and got his there.

The other two, I don't know where they got there's, but one of them I'll
find out.

I love the didgeridoo.  But I do understand where you're coming from ("it's
only the aborigines (sp?) who play them).

SPeNCeR
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From: RBobo123@aol.com
Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 17:50:09 EST
Subject: [CB] Altissimo Bassoon
Reply-To: contrabass@contrabass.com

Is there a bassoonist out there who knows of a good source of bassoon
fingerings for the higher notes (To the Bb above treble would be best).
Thanks
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