From: Eric
Subject: [CB] Gorilla Glue (or equivalent) on oboes
Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 01:02:03 GMT
I hope y'all of the seimic community will forgive me for talking
about a treble instrument, and also forgive me for using a cuss word on
this list ("treble"), but since this is the only list I subscribe to
having to do with, and is predominantly dedicated to woodwinds, I'll
take my chances...
The topic of cracks in head joints of oboes and how to repair
them (I understand virtually impossible) was approached by someone who
works with wood (read: carpenter) with the idea of putting a product
called "Gorilla Glue" on/in the crack. The benefit of this glue
is that it expands (I'm guessing ont to the tune of 3500psi or
something ridiculous like that!).
I'm curious if this is a viable option or not.
Again, sorry to be somewhat off-topic here...
Eric in MN
the strings and brass player who advocates hide glue for string
instruments, so if the joint gives out again, the glue breaks, rather
than the wood!
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From: "Gordon Hallgren"
Subject: Re: [CB] Gorilla Glue (or equivalent) on oboes
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 21:11:11 -0400
i restore antique furniture and have tried gorilla glue. it is
strong, but i don't believe it would keep an airtight seal. and it
doesn't necessarily dry hard/solid, depending on the size of the break.
if it was my problem i'd be looking for a specialty glue for difficult
carpentry problems that is rated for exterior use. there used to be
some on the market, but the name escapes me. it comes in a powder form
that has to have water added to activate it. should be available at a
good hardware store.
good luck! let us know what you find.
gordon
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Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 23:21:14 -0400
Subject: Re: [CB] Gorilla Glue (or equivalent) on oboes
From: Michael C Grogg
I don't think it is that off topic, just insert the word Bassoon
wherever the word oboe is used and you will be fine.
I have used some of the gorilla glue, and I really wasn't very
impressed.
Two alternatives I can think of:
From doing some repair work on Electric bass and guitars, CA gap
filling glue. Basically souped up super glue. You can use
some of the thinner penetrating glue first, then finish up with some
applications of the gap filler until the crack is filled. It
takes sanding and polishing well, and at least on basses it makes an
almost invisible repair.
The second glue would be Resorcinal. It is a two part
glue, it is water proof and used a lot in wooden boat building.
It dries with a dark brown glue line, but on an oboe, opps, bassoon it
wouldn't show very badly.
Only problem I can see is that about the smallest amount you can
buy comes in two quart cans, which would be enough to fix a lot of
anything. The CA glues come in one or two ounce bottles. Look at
your hobby shop where they sell radio control model airplane
stuff.
JB weld would probably work too, it is black industrial strength
epoxy, but doesn't penetrate at all. It wouldn't be my first choice,
but it would come before gorilla glue, or elmers, or hide glue.
Michael
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Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 21:11:30 -0700
From: "Chuck Guzis"
Subject: Re: [CB] Gorilla Glue (or equivalent) on oboes
If this were my instrument, I'd give the nice folks at Ferree's
Tools a call. This is an instrument-repair supply house; they're
helpful and they'll sell retail to non-professinals (and they take
credit cards).
Here's their web site:
Cheers,
Chuck
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Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 07:09:42 -0400
Subject: [CB] Heckelphone Centennial meeting
From: Robert Howe
If you're in Manhattan today, come to the North American
Heckelphone Player's Assn meeting and concert, 1-4 pm at Riverside
Church. We'll be celebrating the centennial of our instrument.
Robert Howe
NORTH AMERICAN HECKELPHONE PLAYERS' ASSOCIATION
Fourth Annual Meeting
Riverside Church, New York
Saturday, September 18, 2004, 1:00 P.M.
CELEBRATING THE CENTENNIAL OF THE HECKELPHONE
The New York Kammermusiker
Ilonna Pederson, Director
Jeffrey Hale and James Wilson, Oboes.
Ilonna Pederson and Peggy Wiltrout, English horns
Mark Perchanok, Heckelphone
Richard Vrotney, Bassoon
James Kopp, Contrabassoon
Selections to be announced
The Conn-O-Sax: an American Answer to the Heckelphone
Paul Cohen, Conn-O-Sax
Selections to be announced
Gabriel Faurè: Après un Réve, Opus 7 Number 1
For Voice and Piano; anonymous Italian text, rendered in French
by Romaine Bussine; * English translation by Karen Day Girondel; **
transcribed for Trombone and Piano by Douglas Yeo.
Wilhelm Heckel: Concertino "Meine Gedanken", for
Heckelphone and Piano
United States Premiere
Werner Schulz: Epitaph "Wie ein Ausschnitt der Zeit" for
Heckelphone and Piano
United States Premiere
Camille Saint-Saens: Sonata for Oboe and Piano
Robert Howe, Heckelphone
Michael Dulac, Piano
Music for Heckelphone and Banjo
Mark Perchanok, Heckelphone
Ethan Fein, Banjo
Business Meeting
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From: "John Kilpatrick"
Subject: Re: [CB] [CB Digest]
Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 23:00:45 +0100
Leblanc BBb paperclip - the older sort that comes apart in the
middle - Can anyone tell me what the thread is for the nut that holds
the two halves together? I'm always afraid I'll lose it, one day. My
guess is UNC #4, but that's not easy to check or obtain this side of
the pond - not one item from my box of old nuts and bolts matches.
John K
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