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Subject: RE: [CB] [CB Digest]
Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 17:29:30 -0600
From: "Bryan Bingham" \

Garklein in c'''
Sopranino in f''
Soprano (descant) in c''
Alto (treble) in f'
Tenor in c'    - concert pitch
Bass in f
Great bass in c
Contrabass in F
Subcontrabass in C
Contra-subcontrabass in F,
... but a bit of web searching indicates that, historically, altos (historically called "treble") were also made in G and A, and tenors were also made in D (known as the "voice flute"), and basses were made in both F and G.

Yep, also b-flat sopranos and e-flat altos are currently available, plus bigger Renaissance instruments include items like the "quint bass" in Bb.

Dolmetsch is gearing up to make the biggest recorders in this list - they are calling them: "Sub-Contra Bass in C" and "Sub-Sub-Contra Bass in F".

I have the new Great Bass - a wonderful instrument, although I feel a little ashamed pretending to be a bass player when my lowest note is near the top of the range of the real growlers like the Bb Contrabass Sarrusophone .



Date: Thu, 02 May 2002 18:55:56 -0500
From: Jim Quist
Subject: [CB] Kirk Joseph

Anyone here a fan of Kirk Joseph? Will you point me to some of your
favorite recordings on which he plays.



Date: Thu, 02 May 2002 22:23:36 -0700
From: David Richoux
Subject: Re: [CB] Kirk Joseph

Jim Quist wrote:
> Anyone here a fan of Kirk Joseph? Will you point me to some of your
> favorite recordings on which he plays.
> Jim

Any of the early Dirty Dozen recordings, he was also in a recent New Orleans group
"All That" before Matt Perine took over on Sousaphone, and he has also done much
more with "Plunge" (with Marcus Rojas)

and he is a nice guy to talk tuba wit'    ;-)

Dave Richoux

From: "Spencer Parks"
Subject: Re: [CB] [CB Digest]
Date: Fri, 03 May 2002 12:22:06 -0500

>Actually, it's my understanding that strictly speaking, an Eb Contrabass Sax
>would be called a Eb Contra-Baritone sax as it is an octave below the
>Baritone sax.  A Contrabass Sax would be the current "Subcontrabass Sax". The
>Contralto clarinet is called such because it is one octave below the Alto
>clarinet (since there is no tenor or baritone clarinet)

Good point.


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From: "Guy & Maxine Anderson"
Subject: [CB] Contra naming nonsense
Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 15:08:04 -0600

It is funny how contrabass instruments get named. Take for instance the (E)Eb Subcontralto clarinet. Despite the "sub-" and "contra" prefixes, it still seems just a little strange that an instrument that has to get into its alttissimo register just to get the lowest notes of an alto voice, could still contain the root "alto" in its name. I guess it is just contra- madness striking again!




Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 23:00:27 GMT
Subject: [CB] Nomenclature
From: go_oaw

If you want a real nomenclature zoo, there was a 20 page article listing different names found in the literature for tubas of various sizes and shapes.  Try Bass Tuba someday and try to decide what instrument the name means.  Oscar


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