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From: "Spencer Parks"
Subject: Re: [CB] Orsi Update
Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2002 18:02:13 -0600

Can somebody please resend me that link.  I accidentally erased it, before I
got a chance to check it out.




Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2002 18:06:39 -0600
From: Jim Quist
Subject: Re[2]: [CB] Orsi Update

> Can somebody please resend me that link.  I accidentally erased it, before I
> got a chance to check it out.

Here is Grant's original post:

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Orsi has a minor page update, including two Windows Media files
demonstrating the contrabass sax and their curved sopranino sax (see ).  Does anyone recognize the

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Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2002 16:17:19 -0800
From: Grant Green
Subject: Re: [CB] Orsi Update

>Can somebody please resend me that link.  I accidentally erased it, before
>I got a chance to check it out.

Hi Spencer,

The Orsi clips are on their front page, at .

If you accidentally delete a contra message, you can always go back and find it in the archived digests on the web.  If you know the date you're looking for, you can pull it up directly by typing in (e.g., for March 20, 2002).  I try to throw in "active" links when I set up the archive version, so that if you're reading the archived digest you can simply click on the link and go there.



Grant Green          
Sarrusophones & other Contrabass Winds


Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2002 16:44:37 -0800
From: Grant Green
Subject: Re: [CB] Eppelsheim sarrusophones

>He was a little worried about this, because it looks to him as though the
>horn is on ebay because it is unsellable otherwise. I reassured him that
>in the states ebay is a legitimate marketplace for instruments, and is not
>only for things that people no longer want, or cannot sell otherwise. I
>sure hope I am right about this!!! Anybody got any input into this?

Actually, it is probably pretty cost-effective as advertising: USA Horn gets their product listed for a couple of weeks in a forum where thousands of people are likely to see it if they're shopping for horns.  The price of listing the horn, even if there are no bids, must be quite a bit less than paying for the equivalent amount of "direct mail" type marketing.  It might
look better if they made the opening bid lower (even if they kept a reserve), as it can look like nobody is interested in the instrument when nobody bids, even if the only reason for no bids is the high threshold.

>I also asked about the CC Sarrusophone, ***. He will happily build more,
>to order, they would cost about 14,000 Euros, and take around a year to
>deliver. He's kind of busy, he said.

And likely to stay pretty busy for the foreseeable future :-)  14K euros sounds like a pretty reasonable price for a brand-new CC contrabass sarrusophone - that is about US$12K, which is less than most contrabassoons.  For that matter, it is pretty competitive with the Leblanc 340 ...

BTW, do you know if he's sold many of the sopranissimo saxes?

>Work on the new bass sax is proceeding well, but as I'm not supposed to
>talk about this, I'll only say that he has definitely decided it will not
>have a low "A", because of the problems this causes with the bore, and the
>size of the bell.

"New bass sax"?  "New bass sax"?  How much can you tell us?


Grant Green          
Sarrusophones & other Contrabass Winds


Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 09:18:08 EST
Subject: Re: [CB] Eppelsheim sarrusophones

Just wanted to add my 2 cents worth about USA Horn.  About two months ago they ran an ebay auction for a Selmer Bass Sax , lightly used.  Basically a demo model that they had been toting around to trade shows for a couple of years.  Well, after watching that auction come and go, and knowing just how much I wanted that horn, my wife bought it for my birthday a few weeks ago.  The folks at USAhorn were absolutly great and now I have a great Selmer bass sax at a price I thought I would never see on what amounts to a new horn less a couple of scratches.  They shipped it so I would arrive on by birthday.  I have only good things to say about them and the instrument!

As for ebay, it is great advertising and very cheap unless you sell something.  Then it is a percentage of sale price.

Don Moran
Contra Bass Clarinet, Contra Alto Clarinet, and now Bass Sax(for the lighter music!)
as long as my back and minivan hold out!


Subject: Re: [CB] LeBlanc complaints
Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 21:38:03 +0100

I'm always a bit late answering (commenting) topics on this list, but everything concerning the octos (3 octocontraaltos, 1 beleewed to be in Philadelphia, and 1 octocontrabass) are of interest to me.  It seems I'm one of the few people who actually have played these instruments (and written for them).  But  OK, when I tried the 2 instruments in the office of Mr. Gèrard Leblanc in Paris in 1982  (octocontraalto and octocontrabass, both descending to low C (written!)), they where in very bad condition.  Later in the '80's, they restored them to playable condition, and even persuaded Vandoren to make some reeds!  Strange coincidences: the person who did this, and is the only living person (under 80) who actually know how to make contras (sorry, now I'm on the CIA list again), is my favourite repairman in Oslo.
The office in Paris was closed down in the mid '90's, and is now a hospital, so the instruments are not in Paris.  But there is an address in La Couture-Boussey, where the factory still makes small clarinets and the bodies for bassett horns and bass clarinets which noone knows how to make the keys in Kenosha. Does anyone know where La Couture-Boussey is? I cannot find it in any of my maps or guide books.  Probably it isn't very far from Paris.
Anyone have contacts in Kenosha who could tell anything about where the octos are now?  I believe that the second octocontraalto are in the heirs' of
Lèon Leblanc's possesion, and the first in some office in La Couture-Boussey.
Does anybody on this list live in or near Philadelphia and knows something about "Museum of former musicians of Philadelphia Orchestra" ? (That is where the third, straight (sic) octocontraalto shold be.
Terje Lerstad

----- Original Message -----
From: "Louis Rugani"
Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 5:04 AM
Subject: [CB] LeBlanc complaints

I saw Don Fox, the LeBlanc plant manager, tonight and told him about the
talk on this list about plating delays and other service-related
discourse. He said that LeBlanc tries to emphasize good service, and
anyone having any such problem should call him:

Don Fox
1-(800)-558-9421, Extension 1600

Don also says LeBlanc has one octo-contrabass clarinet, which is
currently in Paris but it has made the trek to Kenosha and back, riding
in its own paid-for seat on the transcontinental flights.  There's a
photo of it in the LeBlanc lobby.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~ **-=3D\/=3D-** ~~~~~~~~~~~~~

The opposite of bravery is not cowardice, but conformity.
       - Robert Anthony


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