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Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2001 16:02:18 -0700
From: Grant Green
Subject: Re: [CB] Contraflute (contra-animals)
>Is that contra-flute made of ABS plumbing parts? It looks like
>one could be made that way, in any event. Hmmm...
>I can see why it needs amplification - who would have that much
>air?Yep, its either ABS or PVC (not sure which, but definitely some form
of plastic). As for amplification, I think its just that the timbre
doesn't carry very well. Even bass flutes don't carry very well: the
only time you hear them unamplified is when they're playing in flute
choirs (and there isn't any competition for the notes below middle C).Grant
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---------------------------------------------------------Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2001 01:42:10 +0200
From: "Klaus Bjerre"
Subject: Re: [CB] Contraflute (contra-animals)>>Is that contra-flute made of ABS plumbing parts? It looks like
>>one could be made that way, in any event. Hmmm...
>>I can see why it needs amplification - who would have that much
>>air?
>
> Yep, its either ABS or PVC (not sure which, but definitely some form
> of plastic). As for amplification, I think its just that the timbre
> doesn't carry very well. Even bass flutes don't carry very well: the
> only time you hear them unamplified is when they're playing in flute
> choirs (and there isn't any competition for the notes below middle C).
>Isn't the standard set-up for a flute choir not something like:
1 piccolo
3 or 4 sopranos
1 alto
1 bassSo the comperition is taken a fourth lower.
Klaus
---------------------------------------------------------Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2001 18:50:29 -0500
From: Oscar A Wehmanen
Subject: Re: [CB] Contraflute (contra-animals)Flutes in general have most of their energy
in the lowest harmonics. If you check out the
audibility curves, you find that for normal
efficiency of radiation rates, .01% rising to 1%
for some brass in the higer register, you find that
it starts to require large fractions of a horsepower
(generated by your diaphram muscles alone) to make the
notes audible. That is why common flutes end at f below
middle c. Why Peruvian end blown pipes are noteable
for the high frequency (overtone) chiff, which only
implies the low fundimental.Bottom line, I think that amplification would be very useful
for a contra flute. Oscar
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Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2001 22:53:41 -0400
From: Paul Lindemeyer
Subject: [CB] Bass sax ID requestedHi all --
This poster to alt.music.saxophone wanted some info on a French-made
bass sax. No one there could help him.I guessed from his attempts to read the brand name that it might have
been Triebert (the sarrusophone maker).Would any of you scholars be kind enough to contact him directly if you
can help with his horn?Thanks -P.
Subject: Help with Bass sax ID....
Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2001 01:55:07 GMT
From: "Shawn M. M. Pence" <bariguy@cfl.rr.com>
Organization: RoadRunner - Central Florida
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.saxophoneI've recently come into possession of a bass saxophone that I'm having a
hell of a hard time identifying and dating. The horn is definitely old, no
bis key and the C-sharp and g-sharp on the rack are not connected in any way
(Unarticulated), making a flutter between the two physically impossible. I
think the engraver's mark was screwed at the factory, so I'll give you the
only printed information I can find marked on the horn...Cuibert-Brevete (this is what's the hardest to read,
could be Cuebert, Ciubert, Ciebert, you get the Idea)
S.G.D.G.
Paris
L.P.Thats it! I've not been able to pull anything up on this horn from anywhere,
if anyone has any information please reply to bariguy@cfl.rr.comThanks,
Shawn Pence
---------------------------------------------------------Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2001 22:08:16 -0500
From: Jim Quist
Subject: Re: [CB] Bass sax ID requested> Would any of you scholars be kind enough to contact him directly if you
> can help with his horn?Please Cc: your response to this list.
Jim
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