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Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 16:00:04 +0000
From: David Flager
Subject: Re: [CB] [Contra digest]

Hey Grant!

This year some time I'd like to measure sarrusi. does your offer still
stand? also, are there closer ones (via museums or private collections)
to my location (Placerville) ?. I heard there might be in Davis
somewhere, I think, maybe you might have said it I can't remember.

Anyone on the list have Sarrusaphones near the Sacramento - Lake Tahoe

Al Rice had extended an invite to all at his disposal but I do not think
the Fiske has any Sarrusaphones. Just Bassons & Brass & such.

David Flager

Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 15:15:26 -0800
From: Tim Johnson
Subject: Re: [CB] [Contra digest]

At 03:31 PM 6/17/00 PST, you wrote:
>Subject: Re:  [CB] migot

> There is a sonatina for contrabass clarinet and piano by William Schmidt
>and a piece by Sharon Davis for soprano, solo low clarinet (alto, bass, and
>contrabass) entitled Three Poems of William Blake.  At one time the music was
>available through Western International Music, Inc.  Both pieces have been
>recorded by Julian Spear on an old LP produced by WIM records.   Michel

Yes, these are wonderful pieces, also William Schmidt recorded an
album about 1981, entitled "American Music, Sacred and Profane".
On it is a piece entitled "Variations on a Whaling Song for Eb
Contrabass Clarinet and Piano", also with Sharon Davis on
Piano and Julian Spear on Contra. I find this an incredible piece,
just an Epiphany really. I believe that the piece that I have mentioned
and those above have the standard fingering Eb Contra-Alto,
rather than the BBb Contrabass.
Anthony Braxton has recorded quite a lot of music on the extended
(curved style) BBb Contrabass Clarinet. Although he is considered to
be a Jazz musician, I think that his music is quite extensively
Also, if you have the opportunity to find "High Places" by Walter Zuber
Armstrong, you will find an extended (about 10 minute) solo for
straight Bb Contrabass. Has to be heard to be believed. The entire
range is used from Chalumeau to to High register. Recorded around
-Tim Johnson


Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 19:34:26 -0400
From: "delmatto"
Subject: Re: [CB] [Contra alto mpcs.

dave hite (j & d hite mouthpieces) fixed me up a few years ago.  i sent him
the stock bundy mpc. that came with my bundy contra alto.  i also bought a
selmer "C" mpc. from woodwind & brasswind & sent that to him.  he refaced
them both & they respond much better.  the selmer has a fatter tone than
the bundy of course.  you can also check with roger garrett. he makes bass
clarinet mpcs. & may reface contra alto mpcs.  i have their e-mail addresses
if you need them.  hite has a web site, garrett can be found on Excite's
bass clarinet list.
nick delmatto.


Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 02:28:35 -0700
From: jim & joyce
Subject: [CB] Bari Sax Review

I went to hear Hamiet Bluette tonight at a very little club
in DC.   He may play jazz that is a little far out for some
folks, but not for the 70 folks that filled the very small
room.   I sat about 6 feet from the horn.  (well, and from
him, too.)

    He gets about as many textures of sound out of his horn
as I can on a dozen or so instruments.  Pretty awesome .  At
times he could absolutely whisper.   Like David Murray, he
does like to climb to the absolutely top of the range -- I
am fairly certain to the equivalent of C in the altissimo on
my Bb soprano clarinet (where I don't get musically, just
experimentally.)  My question:  are a lot of tenor and bari
sax players getting this kind of range out of their



From: Alberto Pinton
Subject:  RE: [CB] Contra alto MP
Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 00:16:05 PST

 This to Steven inquiring about Contra alto MP:
-I use a MP by Clark Fobes which in my opinion is *really* good:
According to him he refaces old Selmer blanks (...the one I've has C*
barely legible under his personal logo...) and 'customizes' them for the
Selmer model. He suggests Vandoren #3 contrabass clarinet reeds, I
personally use #4 which give me a 'straighter' attack in the high register.
I haven't tried many other makes but this MP is totally 'squeak-free', has
great intonation, is easy to blow with the right amount of
resistance...what more is there to wish?
Clark also sells Rovner ligatures for these bigger MPs, I use an older
french metal lig. that fits the MP like a glove and seems to give a quicker
Hoping this is of some help...good luck!


Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 11:20:12 +0100
From: "Klaus Bjerre"
Subject: [CB] Question on reeds for specialty contrabasses

As generally interested in contrabass instruments, but only owning/playing
such ones of the string, brass, and recorder types, I am curious about how
you sarrussophone players and  players of even rarer woodwinds are getting
your reeds.

Can you buy "ready to go" reeds?

Reed "blanks"?

Can contra-basson reeds be refitted for sarrussophones?

Finding the right mouthpieces for low brasses can take lots of time of
testing. Still I have found my present, and very good, solutions in ways,
that could be called pure accidence.

Except for those of you WW-players, who are reed cutting wizzards, there
must be a lot of pray-and-hope in your supply processes.


From: JolivetDVM
Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 11:32:03 EDT
Subject: Re:  [CB] Question on reeds for specialty contrabasses

    Jack Spratt and Vandoren still carry Eb contrabass sarrusophone reeds.
For my Bb bass sarrusophone I use basically a contrabassoon reed.  Someday I
hope to be in the position of worrying about how to find or make reeds for
some of the other sizes!  Michel Jolivet

From: BARISAX942
Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 12:25:03 EDT
Subject: Re: [CB] Subject: OT: DEADLY PRANK

This is just a hoax as all the news programs in Jacksonville have confirmed
with the hospitals that noone was infected in this manner and the
Jacksonville Sherrif's office says that theres is no and never has been a Capt
ain Abraham Sands. Also this "Captain Abraham Sands" used the wrong name for
the police force. Just letting you know cause I've gotten this email MANY

Jeff Smith

From: Opusnandy
Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 12:35:32 EDT
Subject: Re: [CB] Question on reeds for specialty contrabasses

In a message dated 6/18/00 4:43:28 AM, K-Bone writes:

<<I am curious about how you sarrussophone players and  players of even rarer woodwinds are getting
your reeds.>>

My sarrusaphone came with about 30 reeds, apparently a previous owner had
bought out all the remaining reeds from a music store in New York that
carried them.  VanDoren actually still makes sarrusaphone reeds (I recently
saw them in a Woodwind and Brasswind catalog) but they cost $35 each (almost
like buying a trumpet mouthpiece!).  Contrabassoon reeds can be modified but
the results are less than satisfactory (they start out a little narrower then
a sarrus reed should be and you can't add cane).  I have heard others using
reeds for large sordunes (an early double reed instrument) that they get from
shops specializing in early instruments.
    For my heckelphone, I have found that modifying the smallest bassoon reed
I can find works very well.  You need to ream out the inside quite a bit to
get it to fit on the bocal and trip the tip a little.  Heckel still sells
heckelphone reeds in either bassoon style or English horn style, but the
price, when translated into American dollars, is quite high.
    Lastly, I found a Japanese company online that sells both heckelphone and
sarrusaphone reeds, but the prices, again, translated to American currency,
were over $100 each!  No thanks.

Jon Carreira

From: Opusnandy
Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 12:44:20 EDT
Subject: Re: [CB] Subject: OT: DEADLY PRANK

As if spam wasn't a big enough worry on this list, now we have urban legends
to deal with too.


Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 12:50:25 -0700
From: Grant Green
Subject: Re: [CB] Subject: OT: DEADLY PRANK

Lest there be any doubt, please remember that warnings, including virus
warnings, are not considered appropriate list topics.  Nearly all of these
are essentially non-commercial spam: they aren't true, they aren't
entertaining, they aren't relevant to the list, and they use up bandwidth
for no real purpose.  I realize that warnings are passed around with "best
intentions", but please remember that most of us subscribe to several
lists, and are likely to receive the "warning" multiple times even if they
don't get it here.


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