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Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2000 15:56:38 -0500
From: "Luby D. Jackson III" <mus_ldj @ hal.lamar.edu>
Subject: Re: [CB] Newbie SmitingMy "remarks" are not of a sexually suggestive nature. We're all clarinet
players here and it's safe to make comments regarding the instrument.I'm not banned from the bass clarinet list because I still get them in my
email. I never signed up for this contra-bass list, but someone subscribed me
and I've been trying to get off since then.Please remove me from this list as I have no further desire to talk to any of
you.Spike Spiegel wrote:
> Luby "I'm too sexy for good Netiquette" Jackson writes:
> > I meant the soprano Eiffer!!!!
>
> That's not a contrabass instrument - either you don't know where you're
> at, or you're continuing to ...
>
> > I've played the really huge black ones too.
>
> ... display your continuing disregard for internet ettiquette that got you
> banned from the Bass Clarinet List. Right now, I'm opting the latter.
>
> > This is really a control issue.
>
> You've got some nerve. I have a hard time accepting a diagnosis from
> someone who's contributions ONLY come one line at a time, which, as Kim
> Davenport and myself told you on numerous occasions is RUDE and BANDWIDTH
> INEFFICIENT, and at they're best, consist of remarks like "I've played the
> really huge black ones too."
>
> J. Shouryu Nohe
> http://web.nmsu.edu/~jnohe
> Professor of SCSM102, New Mexico State Univ.
> "I don't know, and I don't have an opinion." - Jet Black---------------------------------------------------------
From: Heliconman @ aol.com
Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 00:52:13 EDT
Subject: Re: [CB] Newbie QuestionsIn a message dated 06/07/2000 8:21:27 PM Eastern Daylight Time, K-Bone @ vip.cybercity.dk writes:
> The degree to which the outer facial layers are tranmitting vibrations from
> the mouth/lip area to the nose/chinbone area is very much dependable on the
> flexibility of the skin tissue.
So you're saying that perhaps a good moisturizer or mud-pack or the old
actor's cure for bags under the eyes - Preparation H will tighten the
epidermis enough to be able to see the music better? hehehe...okay, maybe.
Oh, yeah! Don't forget the cucumber slices on the eyes!
Perhaps if we cover California in concrete there will be no more earthquakes!
<shrug>
---------------------------------------------------------From: Heliconman @ aol.com
Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 01:01:31 EDT
Subject: Re: [CB] [Contra digest]In a message dated 06/08/2000 10:01:35 AM Eastern Daylight Time, mendel6 @ juno.com writes:
> I wear contacts and sometimes after playing the contra bassoon, espcially
> on long, low notes everything jiggles - including my brain. DonnaK
I just imagined Dolly Parton playing bass sax and I can't stop grinning!hehe
---------------------------------------------------------Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 0:24:53 -0500
From: MUS_LDJ @ HAL.LAMAR.EDU
Subject: Re: [CB] [Contra digest]I've never played the contra
---------------------------------------------------------Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 0:25:17 -0500
From: MUS_LDJ @ HAL.LAMAR.EDU
Subject: Re: [CB] Newbie QuestionsWhy not use a hot oil treatment?
---------------------------------------------------------Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2000 00:55:54 +0000
From: David Flager <tubadave @ jps.net>
Subject: Re: [CB] [Contra digest]I've never noticed the music shake when playing the Bass, only the Contra
Bass. Therefore the notes that do it are probably in the range of low C
(58.27 Hz) and lower.It's not that the note played at 60Hz is going to flutter, it will
nearly go away at that freq, or to a very very slow pattern & then
appear faster & faster as you begin to move away from the "source" or
"tonic" wave (60hz), either way, above OR below it. as you move away,
the "beats" will get more & more frequent until the rapidity of the
beats make them seem to disappear again. So YES! 58.27 will show a REAL
GOOD slow wiggle where 55 would be a fast flutter. Then as you approach
the fifth below the tonic it will begin the process all over again. You
are actually SEEING harmonic interaction rather than hearing it. the
visable flutters mean there are plausible harmonics present in relation
to the lights power source. this is one good reason for the adoption of
DC powered stage lighting.Go play your contra out in your vehicle at night with the light on. You
will not see any interaction as has been discussed.David-tubadave @ jps.net
---------------------------------------------------------Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2000 19:20:12 -0700
From: Lawrence de Martin <demartin @ tesser.com>
Subject: [CB] Jumping Notesmichael c grogg wrote:
> > >3. In the lowest half octave, my eyes/eyeglasses/head vibrate
> > >so much that I can't read the music.
> It can also have something to do with your lighting. ... Try playing in
> front of your computer monitor, and you will notice certain notes will
> make the screen image go wild. The same things happen to me on tuba, but
> with an incadesent stand light, most of the problem goes away.I have also noticed this effect using a vibrating back cushion. What
was really interesting is that the TV appeared to be wildly vibrating,
while all the other objects in the room where standing still.I think that part of the explanation for this phenomenon is the scanning
frequency of the visual cortex. Since so many on the list experience
the jumping notes, we have an excellent opportunity to get to the bottom
of it.If everyone could make a list of the notes that cause blurriness, and
the light source - fluorescent, TV, computer monitor, etc. - and the
frequency of the source (50/60Hz line for fluorescent, 25/30Hz for TV,
variable for computers) - we may have some valuable collective
sono-visual research.Instead of clogging the list with posts, you can email me directly at:
demartin @ tesser.com
and I will collect and summarize the data.
Thank you in advance for your indulgence,
Larry de Martin
---------------------------------------------------------Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 09:06:04 -0500 (CDT)
From: engelbrecht-wiggans richard <eplus17 @ uiuc.edu>
Subject: Re: [CB] [Contra digest]The music shakes for me (the newbie who started this thread)
only on notes below (concert) low A or so. In my case, I doubt
that it has anything to do with the 60 (or 50) Hz frequency
of AC power. Most my playing is without artificial light.
(Also, because of the resistive nature of incandescent lighting,
I seriously doubt that AC power causes any detectable flicker
in incandescent lights.)Richard.
On Fri, 9 Jun 2000, David Flager wrote:
> I've never noticed the music shake when playing the Bass, only the Contra
> Bass. Therefore the notes that do it are probably in the range of low C
> (58.27 Hz) and lower.
>
> It's not that the note played at 60Hz is going to flutter, it will
> nearly go away at that freq, or to a very very slow pattern & then
> appear faster & faster as you begin to move away from the "source" or
> "tonic" wave (60hz), either way, above OR below it. as you move away,
> the "beats" will get more & more frequent until the rapidity of the
> beats make them seem to disappear again. So YES! 58.27 will show a REAL
> GOOD slow wiggle where 55 would be a fast flutter. Then as you approach
> the fifth below the tonic it will begin the process all over again. You
> are actually SEEING harmonic interaction rather than hearing it. the
> visable flutters mean there are plausible harmonics present in relation
> to the lights power source. this is one good reason for the adoption of
> DC powered stage lighting.
>
> Go play your contra out in your vehicle at night with the light on. You
> will not see any interaction as has been discussed.
>
> David-tubadave @ jps.netRichard Engelbrecht-Wiggans, U of Illinois, Champaign, Illinois
email: eplus17 @ uiuc.edu; (217) 333-1088---------------------------------------------------------
Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2000 15:34:31 +0100
From: "Klaus Bjerre" <K-Bone @ vip.cybercity.dk>
Subject: Re: [CB] Newbie QuestionsGood, and successful, try at a misinterpretation.
Stiffness of the facial surface, be it caused by muscular tensions or by
edemas, does further the transmission of the energy of low frequencies from
the mouth area to the eye surroundings, where it is unwanted.I did call it a rubbing, you might call it a facial massage. Anyway it does
loosen up a stiff face. So it is not a question of tightening any epidermic.
It is just the other way round.Never been in California, but living a bit further to the North has had
me experience the temperature factor influencing my playing condition.I do play a Conn 40K amongst others. Your e-mail address does suggest, that
you have got at least your bell straight.As mentioned in my original posting on the thread, my opinion was thought of
as a supplementary aspect to a number of good postings.Klaus
----------
>From: Heliconman@aol.com
>Subject: Re: [CB] Newbie Questions
>Date: fre 9. jun 2000 05:52
>
> In a message dated 06/07/2000 8:21:27 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> K-Bone@vip.cybercity.dk writes:
>
>> The degree to which the outer facial layers are tranmitting vibrations from
>> the mouth/lip area to the nose/chinbone area is very much dependable on the
>> flexibility of the skin tissue.
>
> So you're saying that perhaps a good moisturizer or mud-pack or the old
> actor's cure for bags under the eyes - Preparation H will tighten the
> epidermis enough to be able to see the music better? hehehe...okay, maybe.
> Oh, yeah! Don't forget the cucumber slices on the eyes!
> Perhaps if we cover California in concrete there will be no more earthquakes!
> <shrug>
---------------------------------------------------------From: "Musicstudents.com" <jonsmith @ access1.net>
Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 11:40:13 -0700
Subject: [CB] busts----------
Can Anybody Help?
----------email: Stellair @ ix.netcom.com
subject: Comments
name: Stella
comments: Dear Sirs,I live in Clearwater, FL and also travel to Boston often.
Where could I find a bust of Beethoven, Lizst, Rachmaninoff and Tschaikowsky?
Thank you,
Stella
Jonathan
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