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2000-04-18

 
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 20:20:21 -0500
From: Topper <leo_g@carroll.com>
Subject: Re: [CB] spam
Reply-To: contrabass@contrabass.com

I still like the way this reads. the other is in mime format. I am sorry I
exploded on that last spam but I geuss for a good list we have to pt up
with some degree of suffering. It'slike practising when you really do not
feel like it.

So now there are two contrabass lists as fate would have it?

>I am thinking I should get e-mails for my congressman and
>senators, and copy them whenever I report spam through
>spamcophttp://spamcop.net/?code=laT4FEeT%2FSvQElande%40erols.com
>If everyone did that, then congress would know about the problem.
>
>By the way ESCAPE was a wonderful radio show.  At the moment some
>folks are trying to excape from hords of ravenous rats.
>
>jim lande

Cheers, Leo

 http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/leo_g@carroll.com/
"You Take The High Notes" http://helius.carroll.com/p/leo_g/  There is a
difference between "dealers" and musicians that love not only the sound of
music but the tools wchich make it possible for people to play music. It's
important to set things free so they may ultimately find their way  to
their intended parties. I am especially interested in Musical Instrument
History and technical data. Please email me with interesting links. Thank
you:-) Leo
 

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Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 21:37:56 -0500
From: Topper <leo_g@carroll.com>
Subject: [CB] What's new?
Reply-To: contrabass@contrabass.com

so any good contras for sale lately?
 

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Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 09:22:32 -0400
From: michael c grogg <mgrogg@juno.com>
Subject: [CB] What snew?
Reply-To: contrabass@contrabass.com

On Mon, 17 Apr 2000 21:37:56 -0500 Topper <leo_g@carroll.com> writes:
> so any good contras for sale lately?

No, only corrupt ones are for sale these days.
I think John Poindexter and Ollie North took care of that back in the 80's.
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Subject change:

I have not noted any particular increase in spams or unwanted advertising
on the TubaEuphonium list.  We still get spam from time to time, the thin
skinned need to learn that the easiest way to take care of spam is with a
quick click of the delete key.  I run the email server for my company, so
one of the first duties each morning is going through and eliminating the
accumulated drivel from the previous night.  I reek havoc in moments with
 the fastest delete key in the Southeast.  I would file notches in my
mouse for all the spam I kill, but I woundn't have much of a mouse left
after a couple of days.

Leave the list where ever it is easy for you to maintain, the spam on the
list is a lot less annoying than the *&^#*^&% telemarketers that call on
the voice line.

Cheers,

Michael Grogg
Clearwater, Florida
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From: "Musicstudents.com" <jonsmith@access1.net>
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 22:45:19 -0700
Subject: [CB] contras for sale
Reply-To: contrabass@contrabass.com

www.charlesfail.com has a Vito BBb, and a Selmer EEb, a Selmer Bass and a Buffet bass all from the same estate.

The contra-alto is grenadilla, not rosewood.

Jonathan
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From: thorneycroft@webtv.net
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 01:26:58 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [CB] Bad Spelling.
Reply-To: contrabass@contrabass.com

Please excuse my spelling, on my last communication. I dashed it off in
haste with the intention of correcting what I knew to be several gross
errors in spelling , and in my haste hit the send button.

Thorneycroft

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From: Heliconman@aol.com
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 18:15:43 EDT
Subject: Re: [CB] Boston Marathon
Reply-To: contrabass@contrabass.com

In a message dated 04/17/2000 2:29:55 AM Eastern Daylight Time, tag4@cornell.edu writes:

<< Greetings, bass enthusiasts.

         For those of you that might be interested, Scott Rimm-Hewitt, a
 tuba grad student at UNC at Greensboro, will be running the Boston
 Marathon tomorrow (Monday, April 17) with a tuba strapped to his back.
 He's doing it to support the arts.  You might want to keep an eye out for
 him on ESPN2 (I think they're the ones broadcasting the event).  Has this
 ever been done before?  Is there a record for long distance running with
 contrabass instruments?

         Cheers,

                 Tom Glickman        >>

Did anyone see him in the race? I wasn't able to get back into Boston in time
after I dropped off my helicon after my parade. I was bouncing between 3
local channels and didn't see him. Was hoping to be able to catch him on
video for the CB Archives, but no luck. Good day for the race, although maybe
a BIT cooler than ideal. As usual those folks from Kenya took home a few
trophies!
Cheers!

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Message: 6
   Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 20:23:21 EDT
   From: LeliaLoban@aol.com
Subject: Goodbye, with regrets

I subscribed to a onelist group last fall, but was not aware of the merger
with e-groups.  I read the privacy policy of e-groups today.  This policy
requires users to accept a cookie to use certain parts of the site. The
cookie seems to be an advertising-generating cookie, not simply a
site-navigation cookie.   I will not accept this cookie.  I had left the
minimum required personal information on onelist, but will now remove myself
from that list and will not fill out the questionnaires e-groups sends out.
Such questionnaires place people who respond on spammers' targetting lists.

I notice that within hours of receiving the message stating that the list
would change to e-groups, I received two of these questionnaires.  Grant, am
I correct in assuming that these don't come from you?  Anyone who responds to
these questionnaires may expect spam, soon.  It will be "personalized" to
reflect that the group member likes musical instruments.

E-groups has defined spam as unsolicited dvertising from outside sources
(advertisers that have not paid e-groups' fees, in other words), but defines
its own spam as solicited mail.  In other words, by signing up for the list,
we sign up for the advertisements, which I define as spam.  I love this list,
but I will wait long enough for this message to go out to the list and then
unsubscribe.

Goodbye, with regrets,
Lelia
 

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Message: 7
   Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 20:27:23 EDT
   From: LeliaLoban@aol.com
Subject: Worse than I thought....

One final thought....  Within five minutes of mailing that last message, I
received two more of these phony questionnaires.

Lelia
 

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Message: 9
   Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 20:44:33 -0500
   From: Jim Katz <jimkatz@johnabbott.qc.ca>
Subject: Re: Goodbye, with regrets

I don't know what all this business is, but it does not sound kosher to me
either. Count me off the list as well.

Jim Katz

>I subscribed to a onelist group last fall, but was not aware of the merger
>with e-groups.  I read the privacy policy of e-groups today.  This policy
>requires users to accept a cookie to use certain parts of the site. The
>cookie seems to be an advertising-generating cookie, not simply a
>site-navigation cookie.   I will not accept this cookie.  I had left the
>minimum required personal information on onelist, but will now remove myself
>from that list and will not fill out the questionnaires e-groups sends out.
>Such questionnaires place people who respond on spammers' targetting lists.
>
>I notice that within hours of receiving the message stating that the list
>would change to e-groups, I received two of these questionnaires.  Grant, am
>I correct in assuming that these don't come from you?  Anyone who responds to
>these questionnaires may expect spam, soon.  It will be "personalized" to
>reflect that the group member likes musical instruments.
>
>E-groups has defined spam as unsolicited dvertising from outside sources
>(advertisers that have not paid e-groups' fees, in other words), but defines
>its own spam as solicited mail.  In other words, by signing up for the list,
>we sign up for the advertisements, which I define as spam.  I love this list,
>but I will wait long enough for this message to go out to the list and then
>unsubscribe.
>
>Goodbye, with regrets,
>Lelia
 

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Message: 10
   Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 17:28:05 -0700
   From: Grant Green <gdgreen@contrabass.com>
Subject: Re: Goodbye, with regrets

>I subscribed to a onelist group last fall, but was not aware of the merger
>with e-groups.  I read the privacy policy of e-groups today.  This policy
>requires users to accept a cookie to use certain parts of the site. The
>cookie seems to be an advertising-generating cookie, not simply a
>site-navigation cookie.   I will not accept this cookie.  I had left the
>minimum required personal information on onelist, but will now remove myself
>from that list and will not fill out the questionnaires e-groups sends out.
Such questionnaires place people who respond on spammers' targetting lists.

>I notice that within hours of receiving the message stating that the list
>would change to e-groups, I received two of these questionnaires.  Grant, am
>I correct in assuming that these don't come from you?  Anyone who responds to
>these questionnaires may expect spam, soon.  It will be "personalized" to
>reflect that the group member likes musical instruments.

The questionnaires that came out were (at least partly) my fault:
egroups provides a "poll" function, and I set up four polls.  I *did*
check the option to send only to the poll originator, but it looks
like the poll itself was automatically sent to all list subscribers.

My apologies: I had thought that the notice only came to me, and was
a notification that the poll had been set up.  (Note: please don't
reply to the poll via email - the poll is accessed only through the
web site at egroups.)  I agree: don't reply to anything by email.
However, the polls listed on the website show you the email address
of whoever created the poll - me, in this case.  I elected the option
of showing only the numeric tabulation, not including the email
address of everyone who participates.

I, too, had originally signed up for a few lists through onelist.com.
It appears that I now have an account at egroups, but checking my
"member profile" shows only my name and email address - not even the
"required" information like gender and age.

Looking at the egroups privacy policy, it looks to me like their
cookies are used for navigation, and for tallying hit counts for
their banner ads.  It is true that the banner ad advertiser can
obtain your browser info by virtue of surfing to the page that has
their banner on it, but you can avoid passing anything relevant by
not having your email address in the browser preferences file.

My read on it is that the egroups cookies aren't used for spam
purposes, at least as long as one doesn't sign up for an "eLert" or
volunteer additional information, etc.  However, I'll try an
experiment: I'll subscribe myself under a new, free email account,
used only for the egroups list, and see if I receive any spam there.
Anyone who is concerned is welcome to do the same.  If you like, you
can set up your account and email me to subscribe it (avoiding the
need to ever "set foot" in egroups and provide information).

>E-groups has defined spam as unsolicited dvertising from outside sources
>(advertisers that have not paid e-groups' fees, in other words), but defines
>its own spam as solicited mail.  In other words, by signing up for the list,
>we sign up for the advertisements, which I define as spam.  I love this list,
>but I will wait long enough for this message to go out to the list and then
>unsubscribe.

I think they have to define spam carefully, because they *do* put ads
at the bottom of their email messages, but I don't expect we'll
receive loads of spam like we did over the weekend.

>Goodbye, with regrets,
>Lelia

I hope you won't feel compelled to sign off.  Frankly, I'm fed up
with receiving spam, and not getting any assistance from my ISP in
blocking it out.  I'm tired of tracking down spammers several times
per day, sending out complaints, and having some appear on the list
anyway.  Onelist and egroups seem to have little or no spam on their
lists, and my only purpose in migrating the list there is to reduce
the amount we receive.  If anyone knows of a better alternative to
eGroups, I'd happily move the group there.

Grant

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Message: 11
   Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 17:59:16 -0700
   From: Grant Green <gdgreen@contrabass.com>
Subject: CD Review

For anyone left, I just ran across a CD of interest to tuba players.

Tubalogy 601 (Tennessee Tech University Alumni Tuba/Euphonium
Ensemble) (1999, Mark Custom Recording Service, 3051-MCD).  This disc
is all tuba + euphonium + rhythm section, playing old jazz standards:

The ensemble includes four euphoniums (euphonia?) and six tubas, in
addition to piano, guitar, bass and drums.  If memory serves, its
available through Walking Frog Records.

Enjoy!

Grant

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ecode:contrabass       http://www.contrabass.com
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Message: 12
   Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 22:15:41 -0400
   From: "farfl's house" <farfl@idirect.ca>
Subject: Re: Goodbye, with regrets

LELIA, DON'T GO!
GRANT, CHANGE US BACK!!!!
(And I still require the digest...I came home to a plethora of e-mails.)
Regards, Regretfully,
Lederman

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Message: 13
   Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 18:23:49 -0700
   From: Grant Green <gdgreen@contrabass.com>
Subject: Re: Goodbye, with regrets

>LELIA, DON'T GO!
>GRANT, CHANGE US BACK!!!!
>(And I still require the digest...I came home to a plethora of e-mails.)
>Regards, Regretfully,
>Lederman

Tell you what: the original list is still intact, and I can delete
the new one with a mouse click.  I *think* the egroups list is
probably fine, and less subject to spam than the original list
(witness last weekend).  However, if the majority prefer to go back
to the old list, I'll delete the new list and we can resume with the
old until I find a new ISP that supports email lists (and has better
spam canceling).

This will *not* be an eGroups poll...  To indicate your preference,
please send me your vote directly (not to either list), and please
put "VOTE" in the subject line so I can sort all these out.  I'll
count up the results, and announce the results later this week.

BTW, you should now be on the digest format.  When I set up the list,
I painstakingly indicated each subscriber as either "immediate" or
"digest", and apparently everyone was set to "immediate."  I've since
gone through the entire subscription list and set everyone to their
original preference.

Again, if anyone has a better alternative, I'm all ears...

Grant

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Grant Green               gdgreen@contrabass.com
ecode:contrabass       http://www.contrabass.com
Professional Fool -> http://www.mp3.com/ProFools
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Message: 14
   Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 22:30:29 -0500
   From: John Howell <John.Howell@vt.edu>
Subject: Re: New poll for contrabass

Well, so far I've received at least 6 separate copies of this "poll."  I
consider this to be spam, and I don't intend to answer any of them.

John

John & Susie Howell
Virginia Tech Department of Music
Blacksburg, Virginia, U.S.A. 24061-0240
Vox (540) 231-8411   Fax (540) 231-5034
(mailto:John.Howell@vt.edu)
http://www.music.vt.edu/faculty/howell/howell.html

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Message: 15
   Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 00:12:48 -0700 (PDT)
   From: thorneycroft@webtv.net
Subject: Re: Goodbye, with regrets

Lelia ;very sorry to see you go. You are knowlageable , witty and
extremly intertaning.    Love your sense of humor. Best of luck

Thorneycroft
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Message: 16
   Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 03:57:28 EDT
   From: ninewinds@aol.com
Subject: Re:  Re: Goodbye, with regrets

I have to side with Leila, pls unsubscribe me. I've received some weird
things in the last day.

Vinny golia
 

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