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Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2000 17:31:34 +0000
From: Lawrence de Martin <demartin@tesser.com>
Subject: Re: [CB] [Contra digest]
Reply-To: contrabass@contrabass.com> From: jim & joyce <lande@erols.com>
> Subject: [CB] Contrabass traumahorn> The oddest instrument I ever had was a Traumahorn, a french
> horn with the valves replaced with a trombone slide.This sounds very interesting. I have a French Horn suitable for
experimentation. Do you have pictures? Drawings? Where does one obtain a
slide, other than hacking a trombone? Was it a tenor slide? Are there any
uses for the remaining fh parts?Larry de Martin
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Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 08:05:40 -0500
From: michael c grogg <mgrogg@juno.com>
Subject: Re: [CB] Contrabass traumahorn
Reply-To: contrabass@contrabass.com> >Been there, done that. I did a slide mellophone a couple of years
> >ago.
> These sound like candidates for Peter Schickele (aka P.D.Q. Bach).
For a really good Contrabass time, try replicating the Tromboon, or make
a Hecklefone (not to be confused with the somewhat more common
Hecklephone.)As all good Schicklephiles know, the tromboon is a standard issue
trombone with a bassoon bockel and reed. It is enough to get your
interest sparked.The true Contramaster is the Hecklefone, which is a Heckle(tm)
contrabasson bockel inserted into a Mirafone(tm) Contrabass Tuba. You
will start at CC (or BBb) and go down from there. I recommend playing in
a space with at least a 50 foot air column above you, like say an
elevator shaft. With a suitable reasonant air column, the Hecklefone is
increadibly loud, as well as low. Played late at night in the freight
elevator shaft of my former music school, people emptied out of studios
and practice rooms on all 5 floors wondering what the noise was.Michael
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---------------------------------------------------------From: LeliaLoban@aol.com
Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 20:09:00 EST
Subject: [CB] Reed contra for sale!
Reply-To: contrabass@contrabass.comGrant Green wrote,
>It looks like the Music Treasures Contrabass a Anche finally made its way onto ebay
(http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=272847206).
Apart from the obvious defects, there is one very curious problem: the bottom
bow is on backwards! <snip> [T]he lower RT key is now on the front of the
horn. How convenient! ;-) >It looks as though eBay's attraction has extended beyond the merely
international: more evidence for those who have suspected all along that
there's something . . . different about people who prefer the Big Woofers. I
wonder what alien species this modification was designed to accomodate?
Wonder if the former owner of the ad anche played gigs on this planet, and,
if so, whether the audience noticed that his, her or its physiology differs
somewhat from that of humans?
;-)Lelia
---------------------------------------------------------Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2000 17:17:43 -0800
From: "Chuck Guzis" <tubastuff@sydex.com>
Subject: Re: [CB] Contrabass traumahorn
Reply-To: contrabass@contrabass.com>>> The oddest instrument I ever had was a Traumahorn, which was a
>>> french horn with the valves replaced with a trombone slide. I had
>>helpIt's already been done! See:
http://www2.potsdam.edu/crane/ericsojq/keyed_slide.htm
Cheers,
Chuck Guzis
Eugene, OR---------------------------------------------------------
Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 17:34:11 -0700
From: Grant Green <gdgreen@contrabass.com>
Subject: Re: [CB] Alien reed contrabass
Reply-To: contrabass@contrabass.com><Apart from the obvious defects, there is one very curious problem: the bottom
>bow is on backwards! <snip> [T]he lower RT key is now on the front of the
>horn. How convenient! ;-) >
>
>It looks as though eBay's attraction has extended beyond the merely
>international: more evidence for those who have suspected all along that
>there's something . . . different about people who prefer the Big Woofers. I
>wonder what alien species this modification was designed to accomodate?
>Wonder if the former owner of the ad anche played gigs on this planet, and,
>if so, whether the audience noticed that his, her or its physiology differs
>somewhat from that of humans?
>;-)
>
>LeliaI suppose it would make sense if you had a finger projecting from
your right thigh, and weren't concerned about the intonation errors
from relocating the tone hole several inches farther along the
bore... ;-)Grant
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---------------------------------------------------------Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 17:45:57 -0700
From: Grant Green <gdgreen@contrabass.com>
Subject: Re: [CB] Contrabass traumahorn
Reply-To: contrabass@contrabass.com>The true Contramaster is the Hecklefone, which is a Heckle(tm)
>contrabasson bockel inserted into a Mirafone(tm) Contrabass Tuba. You
>will start at CC (or BBb) and go down from there. I recommend playing in
>a space with at least a 50 foot air column above you, like say an
>elevator shaft. With a suitable reasonant air column, the Hecklefone is
>increadibly loud, as well as low. Played late at night in the freight
>elevator shaft of my former music school, people emptied out of studios
>and practice rooms on all 5 floors wondering what the noise was.
>
>MichaelMichael, I think we need a recording of that one... ;-) Send me a
tape (or a WAV file), and I'll convert it to mp3 and post it on the
web site.In keeping with the nomenclature, shouldn't we call it a tuboon?
Perhaps a tucontraboon..."...and next on our show, the band Industrial Flatulence will make
its debut, a quartet with sarrusophone, contrabassoon, tromboon and
tuboon. Stick around - you'll probably never see them again..." ;-)Grant
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---------------------------------------------------------From: "Aaron Rabushka" <arabushk@cowtown.net>
Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2000 00:24:38 -0600
Subject: Re: [CB] Contrabass traumahorn
Reply-To: contrabass@contrabass.comAll this traumahorn talk makes me wonder if there are any second-generation
hardart virtuosi out there!Aaron J. Rabushka
arabushk@cowtown.net
http://www.cowtown.net/users/arabushk/
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From: "Corwin D. Moore" <corwinmoore@juno.com>
Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2000 01:31:51 EST
Subject: Re: [CB] Contrabass traumahorn
Reply-To: contrabass@contrabass.com>All this traumahorn talk makes me wonder if there are any
>second-generation hardart virtuosi out there!No, for a simple reason. Exposure to the rigors of that instrument
creates a backwardly genetic de-evolution and a dispotion toward
sterility.Pity.
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---------------------------------------------------------From: ArcLucifer@aol.com
Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2000 12:24:55 EST
Subject: [CB] What is the cheapest Contra Instrument
Reply-To: contrabass@contrabass.comI was just wondering how much everybody thought that the cheapest contra
instrument would be. At the moment, I just looked at that Reed Contrabass on
e-bay which is going for $630 at the moment. I wonder what other people think
the cheapest instrument would be??Jacob
---------------------------------------------------------Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2000 12:41:47 -0500
From: Topper <leo_g@carroll.com>
Subject: Re: [CB] What is the cheapest Contra Instrument
Reply-To: contrabass@contrabass.comI believe that would be an AK-47 used mainly in the Nicaraguan Light
Orchestra Ensemble... Very easy to play. I heard that even Gorillias can
operate them.. :-)(I don't know what's got into me today)
Cheers, Leo
Autions' Underway: http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/leo_g@carroll.com/
"You Take The High Notes" http://helius.carroll.com/p/leo_g/ Our musical
instruments, parts, tools, classical LP, 1800's and 1900's piano music and
with violin editions. A family collection for sale and auction. Items for
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From: Heliconman@aol.com
Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2000 14:29:16 EST
Subject: Re: [CB] Contrabass traumahorn
Reply-To: contrabass@contrabass.comIn a message dated 03/03/2000 8:06:58 PM Eastern Standard Time,
mgrogg@juno.com writes:<< The true Contramaster is the Hecklefone, which is a Heckle(tm)
contrabasson bockel inserted into a Mirafone(tm) Contrabass Tuba. >>Or you could call it a Mirackle Contrafone!
I may try this oneon my BBb helicon!!! (Helicontrassoon?!) hehehehe
Heliconman@aol.com
---------------------------------------------------------From: "Sarah Cordish" <cordish@inter.net.il>
Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2000 20:53:56 +0200
Subject: Re: [CB] Contrabass traumahorn
Reply-To: contrabass@contrabass.com> As all good Schicklephiles know, the tromboon is a standard issue
> trombone with a bassoon bockel and reed. It is enough to get your
> interest sparked.
>
> The true Contramaster is the Hecklefone, which is a Heckle(tm)
> contrabasson bockel inserted into a Mirafone(tm) Contrabass Tuba. You
> will start at CC (or BBb) and go down from there. I recommend playing in
> a space with at least a 50 foot air column above you, like say an
> elevator shaft. With a suitable reasonant air column, the Hecklefone is
> increadibly loud, as well as low. Played late at night in the freight
> elevator shaft of my former music school, people emptied out of studios
> and practice rooms on all 5 floors wondering what the noise was.Two ignorant questions:
If you stick a bassoon bocal on a trombone, how can you push the slide out far enough?
Same with the tuba and contrabassoon bocal; the contrabassoon bocal will put the tuba
pretty far out-of-reach. And do these things really play?Sarah
And if you put an oboe reed on a French horn?????????????
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From: "Corwin D. Moore" <corwinmoore@juno.com>
Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2000 16:36:27 EST
Subject: Re: [CB] Contrabass traumahorn
Reply-To: contrabass@contrabass.com>> Played late at night in the freight
>> elevator shaft of my former music school, people emptied out of studios
>> and practice rooms on all 5 floors wondering what the noise was.Did anyone have the "good taste" of directing the elevator to go to the
basement, preferably as rapidly as possible?>Two ignorant questions:
>If you stick a bassoon bocal on a trombone, how can you push the slide
>out far enough?Music is sometimes a "community" effort.
>Same with the tuba and contrabassoon bocal; the contrabassoon bocal
>will put the tuba pretty far out-of-reach.Actually, the bocal is optional. Just jam the read into the tuba
mouthpiece, maybe using a little chewing gum for the proper seal.>And do these things really play?
Also optional is any pretense that the noise, er ..., the sound, that
these instruments produce could even remotely be called "music."My favorite was attaching a vacuum cleaner hose to the end of the bassoon
bell. Sure, it was a "one-note marvel" (everything above BBb being nearly
normal), but it sure got the attention of the family cat. (It also
necessitated recleaning my practice room, collecting back up all that
stuff dislodged from inside the vacuum hose.)I even thought about connecting the vacuum cleaner itself onto the end of
the hose, to produce a sort of sub-sub-contrabass English horn. But I
reconsidered. (Besides, my otherwise tolerant folks had already grounded
me for week.)- Corwin Moore
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---------------------------------------------------------Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2000 16:54:55 -0500
From: Topper <leo_g@carroll.com>
Subject: [CB] FA:Baritone Horns (Pocket Tubas)
Reply-To: contrabass@contrabass.comhttp://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=275576222
1952 CONNhttp://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=275602674
The 1935 CONN Lady on Bellhttp://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=274114834
Very Old Olds
Cheers, Leo
Autions' Underway: http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/leo_g@carroll.com/
"You Take The High Notes" http://helius.carroll.com/p/leo_g/ Our musical
instruments, parts, tools, classical LP, 1800's and 1900's piano music and
with violin editions. A family collection for sale and auction. Items for
sale date from before 1813 to 1987. Please bookmark or link page as new
items are catalogued weekly. Links will be exchanged upon request. I am
especially interested in Musical Instrument History and technical data.
Please email me with interesting links. Thank you:-) Leo
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