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1999-12-06

 
From: "Mats Öljare" <oljare@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Heckelphone part
Date: Sun, 05 Dec 1999 23:44:27 GMT
Reply-To: contrabass@contrabass.com

>Bass oboe is the usual replacement for Heckelphone.  Bassoon could do
>it, too, and tenor Saxophhone is used by Hindemith.  I think the
>baritone Saxophone has the most similar tone to the Heckelphone (I own
>and play all of these except bassoon) but alas, it does not play high
>enough.

That depends on how you force it...

Mats Öljare
Eskilstuna,Sweden
http://www.angelfire.com/mo/oljare

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From: "Mr. Josh" <themanfromutopia@hotmail.com>
Subject: beats, barbershop quartets and organs
Date: Mon, 06 Dec 1999 02:39:36 GMT
Reply-To: contrabass@contrabass.com

The other day I heard a barbershop quartet practicing, and I heard beats,
would it be possible to have the beats going in a certain frequency range as
to sound an incredibly low note, or would it be to quiet to hear if they  did?
Also, why don't churches, concert halls, etc. have organ pipes which lay on
the floor along the wall, that way it would be easy to have 64' stops?
Does anyone know if there are actual contrabass singers?
If you whistle and hum at the same time, which is quite possible, can you
create beats and sound an insanely low note?
Are there contrabass bagpipes?
What is a rothophone?
Does anyone have any orchestration tips, I made a bet with my friend that I
could write a 100 part piece of chamber music called "The Senate."

                       Until next time,
                      Mr.Josh
 

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From: Heliconman@aol.com
Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1999 00:23:59 EST
Subject: Re: beats, barbershop quartets and organs
Reply-To: contrabass@contrabass.com

In a message dated 12/05/1999 9:41:58 PM Eastern Standard Time,
themanfromutopia@hotmail.com writes:

<< If you whistle and hum at the same time, which is quite possible, can you
 create beats and sound an insanely low note? >>

Yes, I can! The "notes" are subsonic though, like 4hz. You can hear the
beats, but the note isn't that loud. There are probably higher beat
frequencies, but again the volume of the beat frequencies just isn't that  loud.
There was some reference to generating sound within human hearing range by
using a pair of ultrasonic tones fairly close to the same pitch. I think it
was referred to either ON the <JamSync.com> website or through one of their
links. I'll see if I can dig that out again.

<< Are there contrabass bagpipes? >>
 
I've heard of Italian bass bagpipes. I forget the Italian name for them.
Might have been through Lark In The Morning's site. Another run for a battery
of search engines!
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Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1999 12:17:18 -0700
From: Grant Green <gdgreen@contrabass.com>
Subject: Re: beats, barbershop quartets and organs
Reply-To: contrabass@contrabass.com

>The other day I heard a barbershop quartet practicing, and I heard
>beats, would it be possible to have the beats going in a certain
>frequency range as to sound an incredibly low note, or would it be
>to quiet to hear if they did?

Possible, but difficult.  Difference tones tend to work best when
generated between two loud, high-pitched tones, especially if the
timbre is not complex.  Piccolos and recorders are supposed to work
best.  I seem to recall that somebody wrote a trio played by two
instruments, that made use of difference tones to supply the third
part...

>***
>If you whistle and hum at the same time, which is quite possible,
>can you create beats and sound an insanely low note?

Probably.  Let us know if it works ;-)

>What is a rothophone?

A rothophone is essentially a narrow-bore, double-reed saxophone.  So
is the sarrusophone, but a rothophone is bent in the same shape as
the saxophone, whereas the sarrusophone is coiled more like a thin
tuba (with the bell at the top).  They were made for a few years
around the turn of the century, mainly in Italy.  Also called a
saxsarrusophone.

>Does anyone have any orchestration tips, I made a bet with my friend
>that I could write a 100 part piece of chamber music called "The
>Senate."

If it has 100 players, I don't think its "chamber" music anymore -
more like symphony orchestra.  There's an orchestration list at
http://www.onelist.com/community/orchestration (not very active).  I
learned orchestration from "Orchestration" by W. Piston.  The book by
Adler is popular with many people.

Best of luck!

Grant

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