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From: "Sarah Cordish" <cordish@internet-zahav.net>
Subject: Re: Ah yes...
Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 18:58:27 +0300
Reply-To: contrabass@contrabass.comStuart,
Congratulations. Maybe in the expansive good mood of owning your own
contrabass clarinet, you could tell me something which I am probably
the ONLY ONE who doesn't know.
How low does the contrabass clarinet go? Is it exactly two octaves
lower than a regular Bb clarinet?
Lower than a bassoon? Lower than a contrabassoon? Tuba?
Sarrusophone contrabass? I don't have a piano for comparing.Sarah
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Subject: Re: Ah yes...
Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 09:10:30 -0700
From: jazzman <jazzman@bayarea.net>
Reply-To: contrabass@contrabass.com>Stuart,
>
>Congratulations. Maybe in the expansive good mood of owning your own
>contrabass clarinet, you could tell me something which I am probably
>the ONLY ONE who doesn't know.
>How low does the contrabass clarinet go? Is it exactly two octaves
>lower than a regular Bb clarinet?
> Lower than a bassoon? Lower than a contrabassoon? Tuba?
>Sarrusophone contrabass? I don't have a piano for comparing.
>
>SarahThe standard Eb contra-alto clarinet goes down to a written low Eb. This
is written an octave and a major sixth higher than sounded, so this is
the lowest Gb on the piano. Extended range contra-alto clarinets go down
to low C written, which is the lowest Eb on the piano.The standard BBb contrabass clarinet goes down to a written low Eb. This
is written two octaves and a major second higher than it sounds in treble
clef. This is one octave lower than a bass clarinet and two octaves lower
than a Bb clarinet. The lowest standard note would then be the lowest Db
on the piano. Extended range contrabass clarinets go down to low C
written, which is the lowest Bb on the piano.The lowest C on the piano is three octaves lower than middle C, for
comparison.For reference, the contrabassoon's normal range is also the lowest Bb on
the piano. Some rare contrabassoons go down to A.A BBb tuba's open pedal tone is the lowest Bb also. A good player can go
quite a bit lower than that with his valves. However, these notes are not
very facile. A C tuba's pedal is the lowest C, an Eb tuba's lowest pedal
is the lowest Eb, and a sousaphone's pedal is one octave higher than a
concert BBb tuba.The lowest sarrusaphone, the Eb contrabass, is written two octaves and a
major sixth higher than it sounds in treble clef. Its lowest note is
written Bb, which is the lowest Db on the piano.
Syd Polk
jazzman@bayarea.net http://www.bayarea.net/~jazzman
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From: CoolStu67@aol.com
Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 12:42:00 EDT
Subject: Re: Ah yes...
Reply-To: contrabass@contrabass.com
<<
Congratulations. Maybe in the expansive good mood of owning your own
contrabass clarinet, you could tell me something which I am probably
the ONLY ONE who doesn't know.
How low does the contrabass clarinet go? Is it exactly two octaves
lower than a regular Bb clarinet?
Lower than a bassoon? Lower than a contrabassoon? Tuba?
Sarrusophone contrabass? I don't have a piano for comparing.
>>I'll refer to the low C model. It can play as low as a contrabassoon, as low
as tuba, and a little lower than a Eb sarrusophone. One full octave lower
than the bassoon, and one full octave lower than a bass clarinet plus three
notes added on the bottom. The lowest C on contrabass clarinet is concert Bb
an octave below the first Bb below the bass clef.Stuart
---------------------------------------------------------Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 13:27:45 -0700
Subject: Re: Ah yes...
From: mgrogg@juno.com
Reply-To: contrabass@contrabass.com>A BBb tuba's open pedal tone is the lowest Bb also. A good player can
>go quite a bit lower than that with his valves. However, these notes are
>not very facile.Depends on the player. I can get around pretty well even well below the pedal CC.
>A C tuba's pedal is the lowest C, an Eb tuba's lowest
>pedal is the lowest Eb, and a sousaphone's pedal is one octave higher than a
>concert BBb tuba.Actually, the Sousaphone is also a BBb, unless of course it is an Eb
Sousaphone. ;-)Michael Grogg
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---------------------------------------------------------Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 10:48:51 -0700
From: Grant Green <gdgreen@contrabass.com>
Subject: Re: Ah yes...
Reply-To: contrabass@contrabass.com>The lowest sarrusaphone, the Eb contrabass, is written two octaves and a
>major sixth higher than it sounds in treble clef. Its lowest note is
>written Bb, which is the lowest Db on the piano.Close ;-) Actually, there are two sarrusophones *lower* than the Eb
contrabass. All have written Bb as their lowest note. The C contrabass
has the same range as the contrabassoon (to low concert Bb, the lowest note
on the extended Bb contrabass clarinet), while the Bb contrabass hits the
Ab below that (concert pitch). The Bb contra is an octave below the bass
sarrusophone (and the bass sax).Grant
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---------------------------------------------------------Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 13:23:03 -0700
From: Grant Green <gdgreen@contrabass.com>
Subject: Re: Sarrusophone Stuff
Reply-To: contrabass@contrabass.com
>Dear Interested ContrabassePerson I found recently=8Aa couple of strange
>photos involving the Sarrusophone. First off, here's an ad for a
>sarrusophone: http://www.saxgourmet.com/history/sarruso.gif. I find it
>rather eerie that this ad tqalks so much about the 'popularity' of the
>instrument when it is now obsolete and nobody (except us) is interested in
>it.Yes, at the time Conn thought it would be a big seller, and apparently
planned to produce the entire range. As it turned out, the Eb contrabass
was the only size they ever made.>And apparently the Cedar Falls marching band band, for some reason, has a
>sarrusophone and a *Bassoon*! Check it out at
>http://www.cedarnet.org/cfband/sarrus.html. -Best Wishes, AdamActually, its the Cedar Falls *Municipal* Band, not marching. Most bands
have (or *should* have) bassoons... Even more interesting is the WAV file
on that page: it sounds like it is taken from a band performance. From my
correspondence with the band, the sarrusophone player plays a solo with the
band about once a year, "Solo Pomposo", written for tuba.Grant
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