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Date: Tue, 09 Mar 1999 19:16:23 -0500
From: jim & joyce <>
Subject: access charges

I work at the FCC, so if there was a serious effort to impose
significant charges on general internet access, I think I would have
heard about it.  (Lets say 66% probability.)  It wouldn't surprise me
if there was an attempt to make certain types of internet protocal (IP)
telephony subject to access charges.  These calls look just like
ordinary long distance, but are cheaper because they are exempt for
access charges.  Maybe all long distance should be exempt from access,
but that would mean that local service rates would go up.

Regardless of what you believe, don't bother sending e-mail to congress.
Folks who work over there say that a hard copy letter that looks 'home
made' gets about 100 times the weight as an internet message.  At best,
they simply make a count of pro & con.  They figure that e-mail can come
from anywhere, be sent with little thought, and can be hacked easily.
And, they are right -- except for the contra list.


Date: Tue, 09 Mar 1999 16:23:29 -0800
From: "" <>
Subject: Re: [Contra digest]

Does a 5 piece group comprised of two tubas, trombone, drums & string
bass sound like a gas? it did to me.

Go to my sight. you will find a link to take the "PLUNGE"

thanks for listening

Date: Tue, 09 Mar 1999 19:50:17 -0500
From: Edward Branham <>
Subject: Re: access charges

Nothing personal Jim, but that's like saying "I work at McDonalds, so I know what's going
on in the beef futures market.   There is action ongoing, both legislatively and in the
courts.  I know this for a certainty.

As a telecommunications industry executive, I also know that all current indications are
that internet calls will be considered local calls.  Just last week a significant decision
was reached in favor of the 'an internet call is a local call' crowd.  The real issue here
is not the access call for computers to get to the web, but internet telephony -- using
the internet for carrying long-distance phone calls.  Traditional long distance service is
becoming obsolete and several companies  (AT&T, MCI, Sprint for instance) don't like that

I will be glad to discuss this further off list for those interested.

Best Regards,

Edward Branham

> I work at the FCC, so if there was a serious effort to impose
> significant charges on general internet access, I think I would have
> heard about it.  (Lets say 66% probability.)



Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 06:20:18 -0900
From: Timothy Johnson <>
Subject: Re: [Contra digest]

>On Sat, 6 Mar 1999, John Fierke wrote:
>> "Instrumentation and Orchestration" Alfred Blatter,
>> Schirmer Books, Copyright 1997
>> The B-flat Contrabass Clarinet
>> Agility is of course not
>> as great as on the smaller clarinets
>Oh yeah?  Hm...I have no trouble playing Weber's Concertino (Op26) on the
>thing...if that doesn't require agility, I don't know what does...
To add to that, I have two recordings by Anthony Braxton ("Ornithology" and
"Donna Lee") that are played at the same breakneck bebop tempo that Charlie
Parker originally recorded those pieces. (or so it seems to me). AND he's
playing the metal curved BBb Contrabass clarinet.

Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 17:02:57 +0000
Subject: Contrabass Trombone Recording

I have just received from David Bobroff an interesting new CD made by himself.
It includes Brian Fennelly's Tesserae IV for contrabass trombone and a piece by Anthony? Ploeg for contrabass trombone and piano among other things.  Of course, not everyone will agree that it is a contrabass trombone as he plays the wide-bore trombone in F with valves tuned for D and for A - what I think is called the "true bass" if I remember correctly.  Anyway, the playing which is a live recording of a recital he gave in Rejkjavik last Autumn as advertised, I think, on the list.
You can buy copies off him.
Francis Firth


From: "Aaron Rabushka" <>
Subject: Low Flutes
Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 12:09:39 -0600

I just joined the contrabass list a few days ago. I've been perusing some of
the archives, and I've noticed several references to low (bass and beyond)
flutes. Low extensions of flute timbres (please pardon the theory-geek
diction here) sound fascinating. How are these low flutes at projection and
blending in mixed (i.e., other than flute band) ensembles?

Aaron J. Rabushka


From: John Fierke <>
Subject: FW: Bass saxes
Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 13:12:40 -0500
 Richard Fenno <> wrote:

 Well . . . .yeah, in fact my low A bari goes to concert C, and my bass
 goes just to the Ab concert right below that--4 semitones! But what a
 difference in the projection and the attack. I have a modern bari (made
 in Taiwan) which is terrific, but I'd NEVER try to play a Dixieland bass
 line on it, because my bass (1915 Conn stencil) just shakes the room in a
 way the bari does not.

 There are times when one or the other is appropriate.

 When I played on Stan Kenton's band in the 1970s I was on the chair that
 had some bass parts, but sadly they were all transposed to bari because
 Stan's (Conn) bass was determined to be too large for the bus! (For those
 who don't know, Stans sax section was alto, 2 tenors, and 2 baritones.
 Similarly, the trombone section had two bass bones, including Mike Suter.

 It sounds like you've played your share of bass saxes !  I've been
 Thinking about getting one, but I haven't made the leap yet. (I play
 tenor in a local Boston big band, and have a bari).  I had an opportunity
 to pick up an old Conn "Gretsch" on e-bay, but the seller didn't respond
 to any of my e-mail enquiries, so I wasn't willing to push up and find out
 where his reserve was. I have a feeling I might have missed out on the
 horn, but under the circumstances I don't miss dealing with the seller.

 Nelson Riddle was a bone player, so maybe that was his favorite instrument
 to hold up the bottom of the band.  Still no reason to pick on the bass sax,

 I know of a couple basses available at vintagesax, two older Bueschers in
 the 112,xxx and 138,xxx range.  Has anyone played this type of bass sax
 and willing to share opinions ?


From: John Fierke <>
Subject: contrabass sax
Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 13:20:12 -0500

International Woodwind & Brass has an Orsi Contrabass sax IN STOCK, they are
in New York City.  If you drop by and ask nicely, they will let you try it
out.   Oh yeah - asking price is around $ 34,000, which I guess is a good
deal for one of these.


Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 14:52:43 -0800
From: Grant Green <>
Subject: A sad note...

Just received the following:

"Ann Merrell, bari sax player with the Nuclear Whales passed away Sunday
after performing for the last time with the group.  She had had a
reocurrance of cancer that hit the liver.

Services will be at the Sunnyvale Presbyterian Church at 1:00 PM on Monday.

Send cards to 10542 Cedar Tree Ct.
  Cupertino, CA 95014
As the manager for the whales said, she died quietly in her sleep after
having a wonderful time performing, doing what she loved on Sunday.  She
was a wonderful musical talent that will truly be missed."

Grant Green  

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