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list Tue, 19 Jan 1999 Volume 1 : Number 89In this issue:
college instruments
Re: college instruments
Re: G. Peletti bass horn, the sequel
Re: G. Peletti bass horn, the sequel
Re: G. Peletti bass horn, the sequel
RE: Re: college instruments
This guy is a real winner
Re: This guy is a real winner
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Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 18:03:16 PST
From: "Bret Newton" <jbnbsn99@hotmail.com>
To: list@contrabass.com
Subject: college instrumentsI just found out that the local college has three or four
contrabassoons, including a Heckel and a Fox, and at least one
sarrusophone among other things.
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Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 21:18:02 -0500 (EST)
From: Jack Silver <jsilver@cpcug.org>
To: list@contrabass.com
Subject: Re: college instruments"What local college", whined Jack Silver.
Jack Silver <jsilver@cpcug.org>
On Mon, 18 Jan 1999, Bret Newton wrote:
> I just found out that the local college has three or four
> contrabassoons, including a Heckel and a Fox, and at least one
> sarrusophone among other things.
> Bret Newton
------------------------------Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 23:24:13 -0500
From: mgrogg@juno.com
To: list@contrabass.com
Subject: Re: G. Peletti bass horn, the sequelDear list,
Some of you may remember this post from the holidays. Shortly thereafter
it was noticed that it was not a true OTS horn and some thought it was a
Helicon. I am happy to report that it is a teardrop shaped Bass
Horn/Tuba, similar to a Schrieber, but not quite. It is rather unique
that it is pitched in CC, which is very unusual for a horn from the
1860's. The condition is surprising good except that the last owner
before the antique dealer *GLUED* it to the wall as a wall hanger!
Adding to the insult, they finished the job with a few well placed screws
or nails.For you woodwinders, consider hanging a very early Adolf Sax Bass or a
vintage Heckle Contrabasson on the wall with glue, and then finishing the
job with a few 16 penny spikes. Okay, you got the picture now.The nail holes I can patch, but anyone have a good idea on what solvent
will remove hardened construction adheasive aka "Liquid Nails" from
metal? I don't dare resort to sanding or grinding, the brass is too thin
for any abrasive contact at all.Michael Grogg
>=========================================
>
>----------
>An alert for collectors of antique tubas: Today I saw a 19th century
>3-valve G. Peletti (of Milano) bass horn for sale, bla bla bla.........___________________________________________________________________
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Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 00:37:57 -0500
From: "farfl's house" <farfl@idirect.ca>
To: list@contrabass.com
Subject: Re: G. Peletti bass horn, the sequelHi, Michael!
I would try and contact my father, who is Vice President of APCO Chemicals
here in Toronto. He could probably help! He got the subways running here
again during our snow storm by suggesting the deicing of the third rail with
Isopropyl Alcohol.
Anyway, I believe his e-mail is
lederm3@idirect.com
If that's not it, e-mail me and I will ask him in person. I'm not sure of his
e-mail because I talk to him in person most every day!
Regards,
Stevenmgrogg@juno.com wrote:
> Some of you may remember this post from the holidays. Shortly thereafter
> it was noticed that it was not a true OTS horn and some thought it was a
> Helicon. I am happy to report that it is a teardrop shaped Bass
> Horn/Tuba, similar to a Schrieber, but not quite. It is rather unique
> that it is pitched in CC, which is very unusual for a horn from the
> 1860's. The condition is surprising good except that the last owner
> before the antique dealer *GLUED* it to the wall as a wall hanger!
> Adding to the insult, they finished the job with a few well placed screws
> or nails.
>
> For you woodwinders, consider hanging a very early Adolf Sax Bass or a
> vintage Heckle Contrabasson on the wall with glue, and then finishing the
> job with a few 16 penny spikes. Okay, you got the picture now.
>
> The nail holes I can patch, but anyone have a good idea on what solvent
> will remove hardened construction adheasive aka "Liquid Nails" from
> metal? I don't dare resort to sanding or grinding, the brass is too thin
> for any abrasive contact at all.
>
> Michael Grogg
> >=========================================
> >
> >----------
> >An alert for collectors of antique tubas: Today I saw a 19th century
> >3-valve G. Peletti (of Milano) bass horn for sale, bla bla bla.........
>
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Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 02:37:22 -0400
From: ROBERT HOWE <arehow@vgernet.net>
To: list@contrabass.com
Subject: Re: G. Peletti bass horn, the sequelMICHAEL STOP, before you "restore" this instrument any more, speak to a
PROFESSIONAL conservator. CHeck the AMIS Website and get some phone
numbers to call; call RObb Stewart; call Margaret Downey Banks at the
Shrine to Music. DONT FUCK UP THIS HORN by ill-chosen methods of
restoration! Such a simple thing as choosing the wrong patch material
for the nail holes (can you BELIEVE what some fools will do?) can lead
to serious corrosion and more repairs. Your plea for help shows that
you care enough to do the job right! Better to spend a month or two
seeking advice than to ruin the Pellotti in haste.Robert Howe
mgrogg@juno.com wrote:
>
> Some of you may remember this post from the holidays. Shortly thereafter
> it was noticed that it was not a true OTS horn and some thought it was a
> Helicon. I am happy to report that it is a teardrop shaped Bass
> Horn/Tuba, similar to a Schrieber, but not quite. It is rather unique
> that it is pitched in CC, which is very unusual for a horn from the
> 1860's. The condition is surprising good except that the last owner
> before the antique dealer *GLUED* it to the wall as a wall hanger!
> Adding to the insult, they finished the job with a few well placed screws
> or nails.
>
> For you woodwinders, consider hanging a very early Adolf Sax Bass or a
> vintage Heckle Contrabasson on the wall with glue, and then finishing the
> job with a few 16 penny spikes. Okay, you got the picture now.
>
> The nail holes I can patch, but anyone have a good idea on what solvent
> will remove hardened construction adheasive aka "Liquid Nails" from
> metal? I don't dare resort to sanding or grinding, the brass is too thin
> for any abrasive contact at all.
>
> Michael Grogg
> >=========================================
> >
> >----------
> >An alert for collectors of antique tubas: Today I saw a 19th century
> >3-valve G. Peletti (of Milano) bass horn for sale, bla bla bla.........
>
> ___________________________________________________________________
> You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail.
> Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html
> or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]
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Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 09:26:01 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time)
From: Frank D Diaz <Frank.D.Diaz@wdc.com>
To: list@contrabass.com,
jsilver@cpcug.org
Subject: RE: Re: college instrumentsThat must be one reaaallly rich school. A JC with horns like that ?
Frank Diaz
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Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 14:20:26 -0800 (PST)
From: SAMANI <funnyjazz@yahoo.com>
To: list@contrabass.com
Subject: This guy is a real winner> Don't Try This At Home!
> August, 1998, Montevideo, Uruguay
>
> Paolo Esperanza, bass-trombonist with the Simphonica Mayor de
> Uruguay, in a misplaced moment of inspiration decided to make his own
> contribution to the cannon shots fired as part of the orchestra's
> performance of Tchaikovsky's 1812 Overture at an outdoor children's
> concert. In complete seriousness he placed a large, ignited
> firecracker, which was equivalent in strength to a quarter stick of
> dynamite, into his aluminum straight mute and then stuck the mute
> into the bell of his quite new Yamaha in-line double-valve bass
> trombone.
>
> Later, from his hospital bed he explained to a reporter through
> bandages on his mouth, "I thought that the bell of my trombone would
> shield me from the explosion and instead, would focus the energy of
> the blast outwards and away from me, propelling the mute high above
> the orchestra, like a rocket."
>
> However, Paolo was not up on his propulsion physics nor qualified to
> use high-powered artillery and in his haste to get the horn up before
> the firecracker went off, he failed to raise the bell of the horn
> high enough so as to give the mute enough arc to clear the orchestra.
>
> What actually happened should serve as a lesson to us all during
> those delirious moments of divine inspiration. First, because he
> failed to sufficiently elevate the bell of his horn, the blast
> propelled the mute between rows of players in the woodwind and viola
> sections of the orchestra, missing the players and straight into the
> stomach of the conductor, driving him off the podium and directly
> into the front row of the audience.
>
> Fortunately, the audience were sitting in folding chairs and thus
> they were protected from serious injury, for the chairs collapsed
> under them, passing the energy of the impact of the flying conductor
> backwards into row of people sitting behind them, who in turn were
> driven back into the people in the row behind and so on, like a row
> of dominos. The sound of collapsing wooden chairs and grunts of
> people falling on their behinds increased logarithmically, adding to
> the overall sound of brass cannons and brass playing as constitutes
> the closing measures of the Overture.
>
> Meanwhile, all of this unplanned choreography notwithstanding, back
> on stage Paolo's Waterloo was still unfolding. According to Paolo,
> "Just as I heard the sound of the blast, time seemed to stand still.
> Everything moved in slow motion. Just before I felt searing pain to
> my mouth, I could swear I heard a voice with a Austrian accent say
> "Fur every akshon zer iz un eekvul un opposeet reakshon!" Well, this
> should come as no surprise, for Paolo had set himself up for a
> textbook demonstration of this fundamental law of physics. Having
> failed to plug the lead pipe of his trombone, he allowed the energy
> of the blast to send a superheated jet of gas backwards through the
> mouth pipe of the trombone which exited the mouthpiece, burning his
> lips and face.
>
> The pyrotechnic ballet wasn't over yet. The force of the blast was so
> great it split the bell of his shiny Yamaha right down the middle,
> turning it inside out while at the same time propelling Paolo
> backwards off the riser. And for the grand finale, as Paolo fell
> backwards he lost his grip on the slide of the trombone, allowing the
> pressure of the hot gases coursing through the horn to propel the
> trombone's slide like a double golden spear into the head of the 3rd
> clarinetist, knocking him unconscious.
>
> The moral of the story? Beware the next time you hear someone in the
> trombone section yell out "Hey, everyone, watch this!"
==
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Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 17:34:17 EST
From: CoolStu67@aol.com
To: dariush@dariush.com, list@contrabass.com
Subject: Re: This guy is a real winnerThis story is always a good laugh, but has been discussed in the past... it
turned out to be an urban legend.Stuart
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Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 14:40:58 PST
From: "Bret Newton" <jbnbsn99@hotmail.com>
To: list@contrabass.com
Subject:I never ssaid it was a junior college. The instruments are definatly not
for sale, and I don't know the make or size, but I'll try to find out.
BTW the college is good old UNT.
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Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 15:22:56 -0800
From: Grant Green <gdgreen@contrabass.com>
To: list@contrabass.com
Subject:>----------
>I never ssaid it was a junior college. The instruments are definatly not
>for sale, and I don't know the make or size, but I'll try to find out.
>BTW the college is good old UNT.
>Bret NewtonIs that University of North Texas, with the jazz ensemble?
Grant
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