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list                           Sun, 3 Jan 1999            Volume 1 : Number 73

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Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1999 19:16:41 EST
Subject: Re: G. Peletti bass horn

Stuart wrote:
>Could this be the maker of my Otello-Milano clarinet?

Grant Green wrote:
>>Probably not: "Milano" is simply Italian for Milan, the city.>>
Yes, I agree with this.  It was clear from the positioning of the names that
"Milano" was not part of the brand name.  "Milano" appeared underneath the "G.
Peletti" name and IMHO only identified the location of the maker.

>>Are there any other marks on the horn?
Yes, several, engraved beneath the maker's mark, but unfortunately I was
without my reading glasses and couldn't make out the small engraving on the
tarnished brass.  There was no ornate, decorative engraving at all.  The horn
looks plain and utilitarian.  All the engraving, including the maker's name,
was inconspicuous, in an area of only about 2" square if I remember correctly.

Sorry I can't be more help with this, because it looked like an interesting
instrument (especially after a morning at the Richmond Big Flea and the
Showplace, where several fairly recent and nearly worthless student trumpets
and trombones had gone to die, surrounded by Beanie Babies), although I'm too
ignorant about tubas to risk $250.  For all I know, there may have been things
wrong that I couldn't identify.  If someone more knowledgable sees the horn,
I'd like to know more, for future reference.



Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1999 20:02:51 -0500
From: (Daryl Fletcher)
Subject: Re: Soprano Tuba

It was like an alto horn, but even smaller.  It was in the key of Bb,
same pitch as a conventional soprano trumpet.  It probably used an
ordinary trumpet or flugle horn mouthpiece.  It was a very new looking
instrument.  Frederick Mills and Harvey Phillips actually called it a
soprano tuba, so I'm sure that's proper name of this instrument.

After Frederick Mills played it in rehearsal, Harvey Phillips joked that
he thought it sounded good, but he wasn't quite sure because he has
trouble hearing above middle-C  :-)

Daryl Fletcher

On Fri, 01 Jan 1999 Robert Howe <> writes:
>I am not a brass expert--Woodwinds'R'Us--but I do see in my books, many
>pictures of alto horns and alto and soprano Saxhorns that look like
>teeny weeny tubas.  Could this have been one such?

Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1999 20:22:20 -0500
Subject: Re: Albert Alto Clarinet?

>How can Yamaha be stencil of Vito, if they're two completely different
>companies? I lean to understand both companies just know what student
>horns should have...

LeBlanc selling horns to Yamaha makes perfect sense.  It would streamline
operations, and reduce distribution problems.  Buy American made student
horns in the US rather than import them from Japan.

The Bundy (now Bach) tubas and euphoniums are Yamaha student line with
the Bach logo.  It is painted on rather than engraved, so it doesn't have
to be done until well down the production process.  It makes you wonder
where the rejects go from the Yamaha line (?).  BTW, the Yamaha low brass
are made in Grand Rapids Michigan in the old York factory.

Years ago Yamaha copied the Besson/Bossey Hawkes instruments.  At the
time, Selmer was the USA Besson importer.  Now, Selmer buys them from
Yamaha and Besson/Boosey are on their own.  It is the nature of the
instrument business.


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Date: Sat, 02 Jan 1999 20:38:34 -0800
From: Grant Green <>
Subject: Online Calender

The following is the latest update from Leonard Daly:


Because of the large interest in having a calendar for live music
performances throughout the US, I will support the Live!Music@ calendar for
all regions of the US that want one.  To make sure there is enough interest
and I can maintain the quality of the service, I may limit the number of
new regions brought on-line.  Please send me an email if you would like the
calendar service for your region.  The more emails, the sooner it will be
brought on-line.

I have expanded the current region (Digital Coast) to include San Diego and
Riverside Counties.  The region now covers all of non-desert Southern

Because of the large interest already expressed to me, the first new region
will be the San Francisco Bay Area comprising all areas around the bay.

As your area comes on-line, I would appreciate all submitters of the
calendar to help publicize its existence.  I will provide you with the URL
to your region at the time it is brought on-line.  The URL to the main page
is  It will have a listing of all current

The normal submission rules for events are that the event is a musical
performance, the instruments are mostly acoustic, the style is
predominately classical, jazz, or folk, and the group is not a large
professional organization (e.g., big city orchestras).  I would like to
encourage college/university organizations to submit their events.  If you
have any questions, please write.  I am flexible on nearly all counts.

If you received this message and wish to be taken off of the mailing list,
please reply and let me know.

        Leonard Daly <>
        Information Visualization Specialist & VRML Educator
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Grant Green
Just filling in on sarrusophone.......


Date: Sun, 03 Jan 1999 00:59:01 -0500
From: "farfl's house" <>
Subject: Re: happy news


Jean Adler wrote:
> Dear Low Wind Afficianados,
> Several months back I asked for assistance choosing a mouthpiece because I
> was expecting a baby and had less breath control.  I am happy to report
> my son arrived on December 27th weighing in at a whopping 8 pounds 15
> ounces.  I tell you this child is severely cutting
> into my playing time.  He was a c-section which means no bass clarinet
> playing for 6 weeks.  Looks like my Symphony replacement not only gets to
> do the Holiday Concert but willl also play the Mid-Winter Concert.
> While I am here I found a box of contrabass clarinet reeds that a couple
> of you were interested in purchasing.  Let me know if you are stil
> interested.
> I wish all of you the happiness in 1999 that I have already felt thanks to
> my adorable baby.
> Jean Adler
> ------------------------


Date: Sun, 03 Jan 1999 08:40:43 -0800
From: "" <>
Subject: Re: list V1 #72

Date: Fri, 01 Jan 1999 23:37:50 -0400
Subject: Re: Albert Alto Clarinet?

Mark Beyer wrote:
> > Robert Howe wrote... .. shitty
> > instruments (bundy, vito etc)
> The newer Vitos are just fine. I think that the average band alto is just in
> a poor state of repair.

>Doesn't that make it a shitty instrument?

>Robert Howe

The next Stradivari Violin that comes your way that is in need of a
little setting up & adjustment you can just give it to me, IT'S JUST A

David Flager


Date: Sun, 03 Jan 1999 13:24:55 -0400
Subject: Re: happy news

I don't understand why your obstetrician asks you to refrain from bass
clarient playing for 6 weeks after a Caesarian.  I am a gynecologist
too, I would say begin to play when you feel you can.  Beth Orson in
Vancouver played an English horn CONCERTO 3 weeks after a hysterectomy
and did well.  And she played beautifully, too.

RObert Howe


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