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Date: Wed, 19 Mar 97 10:36:45 EST
Dear Grant, In response to my posting you wrote:
" Ah, the Renaissance rackett!...Some would probably say that they died out centuries ago due to their "unrefined" timbre, but they probably aren't any worse than many modern timbres."I have a follow up question. I've also read about an instrument called a Baroque "ranket" that was similar to a rackett (9 parallel bores). I read that it had a bell on it. I would guess this would change the timbre (even overtones as well as odd, perhaps?) Have you ever seen and/or heard this instrument? Does it have a "nicer timbre". Not that there is anything wrong with the timbre of the rackett.
BTW. My old balalaika band, in addition to balalaikas, domras and fiddles, used everything from a rank of liquid filled tuned beer bottles to bagpipes, kazoos and sirens. Carpathian village music tends to use anything it can get its hands on. We had a lot of fun. I wish we had had a rackett back then.
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 10:00:37 -0800
From: Grant Green <email@example.com>
Subject: Re: Contrabass
At 10:36 AM 3/19/97 EST, you wrote:
> Dear Grant,The baroque ranket (also spelled rackett or rankett) is very similar to the Renaissance variety, but has a conical bore rather than a cylindrical bore. The consequences of that are
> In response to my posting you wrote:
> " Ah, the Renaissance rackett!...Some would probably say that they
> died out centuries ago due to their "unrefined" timbre, but they
> probably aren't any worse than many modern timbres."
> I have a follow up question. I've also read about an instrument called
> a Baroque "ranket" that was similar to a rackett (9 parallel bores). I
> read that it had a bell on it. I would guess this would change the
> timbre (even overtones as well as odd, perhaps?) Have you ever seen
> and/or heard this instrument? Does it have a "nicer timbre". Not that
> there is anything wrong with the timbre of the rackett.
The difference in octaves is due to the stopped pipe acoustics, i.e., the same reason that a clarinet plays an octave lower than an oboe or flute of the same length: a cylindrical bore stopped at one end (the reed does that) sounds an octave lower than a conical bore stopped at one end (like an oboe) or a cylindrical bore open at both ends (like a flute).
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 16:13:39 -0800
From: Grant Green <firstname.lastname@example.org>
Subject: Red Hot Duets for Contrabassoon
I'll pass this along to the list: self-explanatory!
>Date: 3/20/97 6:23 AM
>Subject: Bradford Bentley
>Regarding your comments on the Erb 6 Red hot duets for Contrabassoons I played
>one of the parts & my name is Bradford Buckley not Bradford Bentley. I do
>appreciate your efforts to list contra bassoon disc's. You might be interested
>to know that the piece was written for Greg and myself by Donald Erb and
>recorded in St. Louis MO at Powell Symphony hall the day after we performed it
>on a chamber music concert.
>E mail Bradbsn@aol.com
From: KUUP84A@prodigy.com (MR MARK A TRINKO)
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 18:47:20, -0500
Subject: Contrabassoon/Sarrusophone doubling
-- [ From: Mark Trinko * EMC.Ver #2.5.3 ] --
The other night the Cinncinnati Symphony played in Las Vegas and there were 3 bassoons and a contra-bassoon. The contrabassoonist (Frank Heinz ) played the first piece "Something Espagnole" with four movements alternating between the contrabassoon and the sarrusophone. He had a gold colored shiny new looking sarrusophone that the audience liked a lot more than the contra-bassoon. This concert focused on the bassoons and contra. It was the climax of the Doublereedarama at UNLV that day!
Author: Grant Green <email@example.com> at Internet
Date: 3/22/97 2:05 PM
Subject: Re: Contra instruments on airplane
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At 12:19 AM 3/22/97 -0500, you wrote:
>-- [ From: Mark Trinko * EMC.Ver #2.5.3 ] --
>Let's talk about transporting your contr-whatever on the plane to the
>contra-fest in January 1998 to Las vegas.
>Since I used to work for America Wet and am now a travel agent, guess I
>can give you advice as best as anyone.
>Last year when we coordinated a special rate on America West I got them
>to waive the excess baggage charge. I will probably negotiate the same
>deal with them again. It will be in the registration package we hand
>out in Evanston.
>Don't check your instrument at the ticket counter or on the curb! Hand
>carry it to the gate. From this point you have 2 choices. GATE CHECK
>it and watch the rampers hand carry it to the belly of the plane. If
>you do this, buy extra insurance for $1.00/hundred up to the maximum.
>Other choice is to purchase what they call a baggage seat. This will
>allow your instrument to travel strapped into the seat next to you on
>the plane. Some carriers charge 1/2 price for baggage seats.
>For those of you who need additional help in thee preparations, you can
>call me at 800-270-2616.
>By the way, Grant, I am sorry but accidentally deleted the last digest
>that had the new instructions for this list. Could you send it to me
Just filling in on sarrusophone.......
Author: "Stephen Del Rea" <firstname.lastname@example.org>
Date: 3/21/97 11:30 AM
Subject: Contrabass-L (Racketts)
I was intrigued by the mention of Racketts. Here is some information I found during an internet search for "rackett". What do you think about it as a serious musical instrument? Can it do a full chromatic scale? Is it worth the investment? While we're at it, what is the best lowest reed instrument (full and deep, preferrably single reed) for concert performances (with or without written parts)?
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