Vol. 1, No. 86


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17 February 1997

EDITOR'S NOTE: Let's welcome new subscriber Edward Cahill < scahill@tcsn.net >. Welcome aboard!

Also of note: Paul Cohen now has an Eb contrabass sarrusophone for sale (see below)!

Finally (for those of you who haven't skipped directly to the sarrusophone alert below), the Contrabass site has now been moved to a new server, and should be much faster. The address (http://www.contrabass.com ) should still be the same. The "fully automatic" list should debut (hopefully) this week or next!

Here's a post from the DoubleReed-L list that may be of interest:

>Date: Sun, 16 Feb 1997 22:57:08 -0500 (EST)
>From: BssnRX@aol.com
>To: doublereed-L@bcc.wuacc.edu
>Subject: Contra for sale

> I think somebody posted that they were looking to buy a contrabassoon
>some time ago. If they are still looking, Greg Henegar has a new
>Mollenhauer for sale for $17,500.00. His number is 617-965-1454. The BSO
>is going on tour for two weeks starting on 2/16, so he may not get back to
>you for a while if you call after then.

> Later.
> Jim K

Author: "Sydney R. Polk" <jazzman@rahul.net>
Date: 2/14/97 10:02 AM
Subject: Re: Contrabass-L No. 85

Low woodwinds in pop music -

These are the ones I can think of off the top of my head.

Syd Polk
Anybody see a stolen Leblanc BBb contrabass clarinet in their local pawn shops?

All good examples! "Tears of a Clown" actually has quite a bit of woodwind (although the bassoon part is the best ;-) )

Author: groover@netcom.com (Robert Groover)
Date: 2/14/97 10:03 AM
Subject: Re: Contrabass-L No. 85

Jack Silver <jsilver@cpcug.org> suggested:

> Could the "Cribert-Brevete" tenor sax possibly be "Triebert-Brevete".
> According to the Waterhouse/Langwill Index the Triebert firm was around
> until 1920 and could have made instruments other than the various oboes
> they were known for. Jack Silver

Aha! "Brevét" is French for "patent" - could there be an ' over the last e? I.e. Triebert-patented?

Robert Groover groover@netcom.com (PGP key on request)
Member ECS, AVS, ACM, OSA, Sen.Mem.IEEE, Reg'd Patent Atty
"All men by nature desire knowledge."

Author: Marion Garver <mgrf@pacificnet.net>
Date: 2/14/97 10:04 AM
Subject: Re: Contrabass-L No. 85


I might have an octo-bass flute in C by 1998. Haven't heard from my flute maker in a while........I guess we'll know how the piece develops through ContraBass.

Happy Valentine's Day
Marion Garver

OK, Marion, now you have to provide details!

Range to contra C (B)?
Who's building, Eva Kingman?
How will it be folded (I assume it won't be completely straight).


Author: scahill@tcsn.net (Edward Cahill)
Date: 2/15/97 8:50 AM

I'm subscribing to your mailing list

Author: Grant Green <gdgreen@contrabass.com> at SMTP
Date: 2/15/97 8:51 AM

At 06:43 PM 2/14/97 -0800, you wrote:

>I'm subscribing to your mailing list

OK, welcome aboard!

Next digest will probably be out on Monday. In the meantime, please feel free to post an introduction, e.g., background, instruments, interests, etc. Not required, but appreciated.



Author: Paul Cohen <PaulC135@aol.com>
Date: 2/15/97 6:12 PM
Subject: sarrusophones forever

Hi Grant,

I just received another Evette-Schaeffer contrabass sarrusophone from the widow of a collector who recently passed away. It's #120! (only 6 away from the one you sent me).

Do you know of anyone interested? Its in fair and playable condition, bare brass and with case. I don't know what a fair price is these days.

By the way, you can also hear contrabass sarrusophone on two tracks of Paul Winter's CD, The Man Who Planted Trees. I know - I'm playing sarrusophone on it!

All the best.
Paul Cohen

Author: Grant Green <gdgreen@contrabass.com> at SMTP
Date: 2/15/97 6:14 PM
Subject: Re: sarrusophones forever

Hi Paul,

That's great news! Eb?

There are a number of people on the contrabass list currently interested in sarrusophones: you may be deluged with offers within minutes. Shall I post it to the list on Monday?


Author: PaulC135@aol.com
Date: 2/16/97 8:17 AM
Subject: Re: sarrusophones forever

Thanks Grant. Yes, post away!
The horn is in Eb.

Now, are you also on the taragota newsgroup as well? I've got a couple that have got to go . . . .

Paul Cohen

OK, there you have it. I gave him fair warning!

I'm quite happy with my Eb contra, and am not looking for another one, so feel free!

Author: Grant Green <gdgreen@contrabass.com> at SMTP
Date: 2/16/97 8:18 AM
Subject: Re: sarrusophones forever

At 11:01 PM 2/15/97 -0500, you wrote:

>Thanks Grant. Yes, post away!

>The horn is in Eb.
>Now, are you also on the taragota newsgroup as well? I've got a couple that
>have got to go . . . .

>Paul Cohen

There's a taragota newsgroup?

I may be interested .... can you provide a little more detail about the horns?


Author: PaulC135@aol.com
Date: 2/16/97 12:54 PM
Subject: Re: sarrusophones forever

The tarag are Hungarian folk instruments that can best be described as wooden soprano saxophones. Same size and range, and conical bore, so they overblow an octave and have a similar fingering systemt to the saxophone. They are played in Eastern Europe, and especially Hungary, but they are not so well known, although there are a few amazing CDs out. The two that I have available (one is mine - I have two - and the other came with this sarrusophone) have a more modern key system and are probably 50 to 60 years old. In the reference books (including Lark in the Morning) they seem to sell for $2500 - $3500, which I think is nuts. I'm selling these for $1500.00 each.

Let me know if there are more questions. Thanks for your interest.


Author: Grant Green <gdgreen@contrabass.com> at SMTP
Date: 2/16/97 12:55 PM
Subject: Re: sarrusophones forever

At 03:19 PM 2/16/97 -0500, you wrote:

>Let me know if there are more questions. Thanks for your interest.

One more: do you know who the maker is?


Author: PaulC135@aol.com
Date: 2/16/97 9:48 PM
Subject: Re: sarrusophones forever

Of the three tarag. that I have, one is Adler, the others have no name (but feel and play well).

Paul Cohen

Author: "Daryl Fletcher" <daryl@www.walker.public.lib.ga.us>
Date: 2/16/97 3:38 PM
Subject: contrabass trumpet sound clip


Francis Firth asked me earlier if I would record a tape for him of my contrabass trumpet. I'm still working on the tape, but I thought that you and maybe other people would enjoy hearing a small sample. The song is "In A Sentimental Mood." The attached file is about 312K, so you probably wouldn't want to put it on the regular mailing list, but you could put it in the archive if you want to.

Thanks Daryl. I've posted the WAV file to the web site. Browsers can click on the link here in the archived digest.

Nice clip!


I attended last Saturday's performance by the Nuclear Whales, dragging wife and kids along. They filled the Mountain View Center for the Performing Arts, which, while not a stadium, is still a fairly impressive feat.

Of course, since this is bleary Monday, I forgot to bring the program to work with me. I'll try and post the rest of the review later this week. I can say, however, that it was a great concert. Having the entire program to themselves, they did not hold back. The performance is theatrical enough that it verges on vaudeville (but with really great music). As usual, Art Springs was entertaining (and energetic) on the bass sax, even antic on some pieces (e.g., "Burgler's Holiday", which I think is not so much named for the borrowing of L. Anderson's "Bugler's Holiday" as for the fact that Art steals the show from the soprano trio on his bass). What's more, Don frequently pulled the contra off the stand and cavorted around the stage. Ponderously. Imagine "The Blue Danube", with the group all standing behind their music stands toward the back of the stage, except for Don, carrying the contrabass sax and playing the lowest quarter notes while pirouetting, twirling and dancing back and forth across the stage. We all enjoyed it a great deal.


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