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Vol. 1, No. 49

21 October 1996

EDITOR'S NOTE: Let's welcome a new subscriber, Terry Day ( T_Allen_Day@prodigy.com ). Care to say a few words?

Author: drumming man <lederman@inforamp.net>
Date: 10/20/96 11:36 PM
Subject: Re: spare Sarrusophones

>>> Grant D. Green
>>> gdgreen@crl.com
>>> http://www.crl.com/~gdgreen/index.html
>>> Just filling in on sarrusophone

Hi, Grant;

I was talking to a friend of mine, and I remembered something about you wanting to sell or trade one of your Sarrusophones; he's interested in a BBb one; do you have a spare one lying about??


Do you thing Marcus still has his? Any more good bass sax bargains on the List? That Ed guy (Buescher, $2000) never emailed me back!! The Bastard......

Sorry, my "extra" horn is gone, swapped for Paul Cohen's contrabass ad anche (reed contrabass). I'll ask Lyn if he still has the Conn left.

Still looking for bass saxes. The tenor player in the San Ramon band said she has a friend who wants to sell their old Selmer bass: I'm still waiting to hear the details.


Author: JimKatz@JohnAbbott.qc.ca (Jim Katz)
Date: 10/20/96 11:36 PM
Subject: Re: Contrabass-L No. 48

Just to add to the fun. The following is the real entry for Contrabassoon in an encyclopedia I found at a flea market:

"BASSOON, DOUBLE, a bassoon of increased dimensions, the scale of which is an octave below that of the ordinary bassoon. The double-bassoon was introduced at the commemoration of Handel in 1784, but not found to answer the intended purpose, and has now fallen into utter disuse, the Serpent well supplying the place which it was meant to fill."
the Society for the Diffusion of Useful Knowledge
London, Charles Knight publishers 1835

Humbling for the poor contra players, or what?



Jim Katz
292 Senneville Road, RR1
Senneville, Quebec
Canada, H9X 3L2

Yep. That's why we have (antique) sarrusophones and contra ad anches today. (Well, maybe one reason...) Of course, the contrabassoon makers eventually caught up...

Author: Peter Koval <pkoval@sundance.usd.edu>
Date: 10/20/96 11:36 PM
Subject: Octobass, French Octobasse

This was the name given by M. Vuillaume, a Parisian musical instrument maker, to a gigantic three-stringed Double bass which he built in 1851. It descended to the lowest C of the piano, an octave below the Cello. It was played using a system of levers to stop the strings. See A treatise on Modern Instrumentation by Berlioz (page 240) or the New Grove Dictionary of Musical Instruments under the article Double Bass. The Vuillaume Octobasse is preserved in the museum of the Paris Conservatoire. I seem to remember reading somewhere that two people normally played it-one to bow, the other to work the hand and foot levers, but can't find confirmation to hand.

Leblanc always have termed the sub-contrabass clarinets Octo Contrebasse Clarinets, at least in all the written materials, catalogues, leaflets, etc. that I have.

I hope that this clarifies the position.

Peter Koval

Of course, the lowest C on the piano is only a third below the string bass's normal range (and low C extensions are now common). Seems odd that they had to go to such lengths (heights? depths?) to get a contra C. Sure it wasn't an octave lower?


Author: T_Allen_Day@prodigy.com (MR TERRY A DAY)
Date: 10/20/96 10:31 AM

I can't wait!

Author: Grant Green <gdgreen@crl.com> at SMTP
Date: 10/20/96 10:31 AM
TO: T_Allen_Day@prodigy.com (MR TERRY A DAY) at SMTP

At 01:10 PM 10/20/96 -0500, you wrote:

>I can't wait!

I'll add you to the subscription list. Next digest will probably be Monday or Tuesday (depending on my workload).

Welcome aboard!


And now, the latest from Usenet... I think we've seen this one before, but don't remember if he's changed the price or not.


>From: kirkj1@tir.com
>Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.marketplace
>Subject: FS Cervany Tuba & Bach Bass Trombone
>Date: 18 Oct 1996 02:27:56 GMT

>I have a brand new Cervany 686MR BBb four rotary valve tuba for sale. It is
>less than 8 weeks old. It is a very nice horn but I have decided to go to a CC.
>The specs on it are 0.795 bore, 17 3/4 inch bell, 40 1/8 inch tall, nickel
>silver rim and mouthpipe. It is the newest Cervany BBb design and one of
>the nicest tuba available for less than $3000. Asking $2800 obo plus
>I also have a Bach Strad. dual rotor Bass Trombone for sale. It is in
>mint condition and recently back from the factory where the valve linkages
>were updated. I believe it is a Model 50b3L, Bb/F/Eb, 10 1/2 inch bell and
>traditional wrap. Have the original old style Bach case as well as a new
>Contoured Pro Pac. Asking $1700 obo plus shipping.
>May consider trades also if you have a CC. If you are interested in
>either instrument drop me a line.

Equal time for reed players!


>From: chester753@aol.com (Chester753)
>Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.marketplace
>Subject: Contra alto clarinet F.S.
>Date: 18 Oct 1996 01:07:14 -0400
>Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364)
>Nice Selmer Contra alto Series 9 contra alto clarinet, no cracks, some key
>wear, 2450.00 Chester753@aol.com

Found a couple of interesting brass CDs over the weekend.

Gotta run....


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