Vol. 4, No. 87

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Contrabass-list Fri, 9 Jan 1998 Volume 1 : Number 87

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Date: Thu, 8 Jan 1998 16:32:12 -0800 (PST)
From: bj914@scn.org (John Micheal Bush)
Subject: subcontra saxes

I just saw in the last issue, someone said that there was only one subcontra sax, and that was dismantled after one gig. Well, I know that you were talking about it on some earlier issues. I thought at least. In addition, Isaw a picture in this book of this guy with his sax garden (subcontra up to sopranino, with everything in between). I also heard somewhere taht there are two known subcontras in existence. I will look for the book I saw it in. If they ever go back into production, I would sell my house (if I have one at the time) to be able to get a hold of one. And about the ultra sopranissimo idea, wouldn't that be a dog whistle with a reed? All the hounds in the neighbourhood would collect on the lawn....

John Bush


Imperial Space Cowboy, Aspiring Beatnik, and high school level musician.
btw, looking for a moderately priced sarrusophone.
Check out my jazz/funk/blues combo sometime!

Date: Thu, 08 Jan 1998 18:08:53 -0800
From: Grant Green <gdgreen@contrabass.com>
Subject: Images!

OK, I now have the first two images uploaded. These are both scanned from ORSI's flyer on the contrabass sax.

http://www.contrabass.com/contra-archive/orsi-cb2.jpg is the contrabass, and http://www.contrabass.com/contra-archive/orsi-sp1.jpg is the sopranino. The contrabass should also now appear on the contrabass sax page ( http://www.contrabass.com/pages/cbsax.html ).



Date: Thu, 08 Jan 1998 18:14:22 -0800
From: Grant Green <gdgreen@contrabass.com>
Subject: sopranissimo

At 08:26 PM 1/7/98 EST, Nick wrote:

>I am Nick Starke, and I am going to build the next Octo-contrabass Saxophone.
>I have plans made for it. Please do not go and tell me "it can't be done",
>because it can. Those companies probably spent a month to make one, and it
>was crappy. I am 13, and I have a full life ahead of me (But don't look to
>quick, I'm going on a cruise in a week, and after seeing titanc...), and I
>plan to make one that plays. Any suggestions for me, other than not try at
>all? Good, I need all of the ones I can get. I don't want to make it 15 feet
>tall (like Conn's), or with extra heavy metal (that other guy). This one will
>be made out of light metal, and 10 feet tall. Please, I know at least ONE of

How about in the shape of a sousaphone? I've always thought that if I designed one of these behemoths, I'd either coil it like a sousaphone, or fold it up more like a contrabassoon (e.g., maximum height between 4-6 feet). At 10 feet, it would be too hard to transport (not that the bell isn't going to get in the way....).

>you out there will tell me not to waste my time. Go ahead. You just won't be
>on the list when I let people play it. Anyway.......Octo-contrabass in a
>seconds. I would also like to make a "Sopranissimo" (actually, I want to make
>a sopranississississimo, but lets stay realistic).

Actually, Paul Cohen wrote about the sopranissimo several months ago (maybe a year?). Pitched in Bb, an octave above the soprano, and curved. Only one was built. It uses a reed and mpc made for an oboe (there are single reed mpcs for people who want to double on oboe without learning to handle a double reed).

>The octo clarinet? I think would float all our boats during the big floods.
>Well, I say we send a little note to LebLanc (did I mention I have connections
>there?) with all our signatures on it, saying we want them to make another
>octo-contrabass-clarinet. That might get'em to do it. I just want to play it
>when they make it. Then grant, its all yours (if u buy). Does anyone know
>how much one might cost?

Mucho mucho. Connections? Care to elaborate?


Date: Thu, 08 Jan 1998 18:26:18 -0800
From: Grant Green <gdgreen@contrabass.com>
Subject: CBCL wave file

I've finally made a short WAV file of the contrabass clarinet. Nothing fancy, just middle C, and a scale down to the lowest C.

Haven't been able to upload it yet, but I can email it to anyone interested. Just let me know.


Date: Thu, 08 Jan 1998 19:21:00 -0800
From: Grant Green <gdgreen@contrabass.com>
Subject: NW

The Nuclear Whales website is now up ( http://www.nuclearwhales.com ), with sound clips and some RealAudio. Of special interest is http://www.nuclearwhales.com/billplay.htm , which shows US President Bill Clinton playing the NW's contrabass sax.


Date: Fri, 09 Jan 1998 00:16:48 -0500
From: ROBERT HOWE <arehow@vgernet.net>
Subject: Re: contrabass-list V1 #84

If the person seeking a contra alto clarinet will call me privately, I may have one for you. A Selmer in Grenadilla, recently overhauled and absolutely GORGEOUS!!, plays like a fiend, used in several Hollywood movies including Winnie the Pooh and the Honey Tree, in which it can be heard in the dream sequence.

I need to raise $$ for a curved cor anglais, else I would not offer it.

Robert howe

Date: Fri, 9 Jan 1998 00:41:38 EST
From: PaulC135 <PaulC135@aol.com>
Subject: Re: contrabass-list V1 #86

The Octo-Contra Saxophone was a prop made by the Conn company for promotional purposes. It was never a real instrument, and was never thought of in that way. You can see a picture and more complete description in my column, Vintage Saxophones Revisited, in the Saxophone Journal from a few years back.

There have been other props and slapped-together goofy novelties of large saxes, but these are not instruments in any sense that we recognize, just slightly larger-than-life toys.

Paul Cohen

Date: Fri, 9 Jan 1998 09:57:41, -0500
From: KUUP84A@prodigy.com (MR MARK A TRINKO)
Subject: Contra-fest, It's over!

Everyone bonded. Everyone didn't want it to end. Saying goodbye was very moving for me. The Grand Finale Concert happened, all on video. The masterclass went well. The discussions.....everything.



Trinko will try to solicit groups and companies to host contra-receptions.Monica Fucci will provide new contra-music every year through her Argentina Contra-composers competition.The group prefers more informal jam session together (about 2 days worth). It is recognized that the IDRS function already holds enough "formal" contra-presentations. There wants to be programmed more contra-quintet, quartet, trio, duet practice time.Contra exposure to the public should focus on high school students in their schools rather than trying to attract "old dogs" to a concert. For us to groom upcoming bassoonists into contra-lovers, that is necessary.Trinko will encourage Wisconsin Lions Club to support and sponsor things alongside Marc Fink in Madison in 1999 to make it a "Lions" project. This will allow attendees to approach their local Lions Club to ask for a plane ticket or registration fee or whatever.Mark

Date: Fri, 9 Jan 1998 10:27:13, -0500
From: KUUP84A@prodigy.com (MR MARK A TRINKO)
Subject: Contra-fest video ordering

$25 check today to:

Las Vegas Sundowners Lions Club
724 Straight St
Las Vegas, NV 89110

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