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Contrabass-list Tue, 6 Jan 1998 Volume 1 : Number 84

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Date: Mon, 05 Jan 1998 17:04:56 -0800
From: Grant Green <gdgreen@contrabass.com>
Subject: Contrabass clarinets


I don't remember if I posted this earlier or not (jet lag!), but Charles Fail Music ( http://www.charlesfail.com ) is now listing:

Just thought someone might be interested....Grant

Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 20:05:19 -0500
From: daryl.fletcher@juno.com (Daryl Fletcher)
Subject: Re: ORSI Review

Grant Green <gdgreen@contrabass.com> said:

>Just thought I'd pass along my impressions of ORSI, having visited
>last week.

> Their 4 valve cimbasso is shaped rather
>a tall euphonium, but with several wraps of cylindrical tubing (and
>nice too).

Sounds like you had a great time, Grant! Could you tell us a little bit more about the cimbasso? Did it have piston or rotary valves? Do you know what key it was in? Did it seem to use a conventional tuba mouthpiece? Did they have bell-front cimbassi with more of a trombone shape as well?


Date: Mon, 05 Jan 1998 17:33:00 -0800
From: Grant Green <gdgreen@contrabass.com>
Subject: Re: ORSI cimbassi

At 08:05 PM 1/5/98 -0500, daryl wrote:

>Sounds like you had a great time, Grant! Could you tell us a little bit
>more about the cimbasso? Did it have piston or rotary valves? Do you
>know what key it was in? Did it seem to use a conventional tuba
>mouthpiece? Did they have bell-front cimbassi with more of a trombone
>shape as well?

I did!

My recollection is that the cimbasso I played was "bell up". The pictures will tell for sure (I'm a bit jet-lagged right now...). It had four piston valves (which were not in good condition, as it was a model horn), and the finish is what you'd expect from putting a horn up on the shelf for, oh, maybe 100 years without polishing. But it did sound nice! I believe it is pitched in F, but this is one of the things we had difficulty translating. The upright was the "opera" model, handy for use in close orchestra pits. They also make a "trombone-style" model, which is more used in bands and for marching. Same key, also four valves. I'm not sure if the trombone-style model has pistons or rotors (didn't see one there), but my *guess* would be rotors, as most of the European valve trombones I've seen have been rotor instruments. Mr. Perin pulled out what appeared to be a tuba mouthpiece for me to play it: I didn't think to see what kind it was. Too busy trying to play without laughing at my wife's expression (watching me play instrument after weird instrument - probably a mounting horror that I would soon want to buy several or more, which is of course well founded). I'm sure they would make one to order, either way.

BTW, I forgot to mention: I asked about the contrabass oboe (there's a picture somewhere on contrabass.com). Mr. Perin said that they no longer had even the model for that instrument. However, they would *design* another one if commissioned.

BTW2: Mr. Perin's first name is "Ermenegildo". This is why I refer to him simply as "Mr. Perin."


Date: Tue, 6 Jan 1998 02:05:36, -0500
From: KUUP84A@prodigy.com (MR MARK A TRINKO)
Subject: Contra-fest first complete day!

Wow! What a powerful day. People from around the world who play contra bassoons and contra-clarinets.

Let's see, after afternoon of registration, everyone did the opening reception with tons of food and impromptu jamming. It was great - they could not even speak the same language, but they all knew the same songs

! Argentina, El Salvador, France, USA............... Heckels, Foxes, etc.

I tried to video everything, but the faces, hands, feet, lips, throats all were just to fast and furious to catch it all.

Then we moved to the opening night recital by Nick Cardoze of France. He played Leviathan, Bass Nachtigall, and Sonatine Breve by Rougeron.

After that we did a welcome speach by me and voted on purchasing the video. All in attendance voted to purchase the video. Here's the deal.

....there will be 2 videos, one lecture and masterclasses....the other recitals and concerts. The set of 2 will cost you $25 and that should cover raw materials and shipping/handling. We are moving fast on this. If you want the videos....mail me a check for $25 USD now payable to Las Vegas Sundowner Lions Club, 724 Straight St, Las Vegas, NV 89110 After that, some of us retired to the lounge to scope out the stage for the contra lounge acts upcoming during the next 2 days at certain times.

There is a lot more music this year compared to last year. Everyone brought contra duets, trios, quartets, octets, etc. Tomorrow I will copy all of it so everyone takes home a set. Also, Rolando Siguenza from El Salvador brought music and cassettes for quintets and more. I will pass out cassettes to all attendees tomorrow.

The hotel is ecstatic to host such an extraordinary event. The entire staff is buzzing about our festival. Things learned today.........There are some contra-players who don't speak Spanish or English. I shall prepare better for translators in future festivals.

More tomorrow if I am not to tired tomorrow night!


Date: Mon, 05 Jan 1998 23:58:46 -0600
From: "Melissa A. Bosi" <mbosi@mtsu.campus.mci.net>

I am looking for a contralto clarinet of any quality. Please call 615-847-1074 and leave a number and info for Matt Glassmeyer. Or email <jongleurs@aol.com>


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