Vol. 4, No. 119


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Contrabass-list Wed, 18 Feb 1998 Volume 1 : Number 119

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Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 16:27:17 -0800
From: dnmagic@juno.com (David A Neubauer)
Subject: Cleaning Solved!

I just received this message in response to an inquiery fax I sent (in regards to the cotton/silver cleaning product):

From: The George Basch Company, Inc.


I have received your fax and confirm this is in fact our polish. It can be used on any metal safely and is non-toxic. It can NOT be used on any lacquered metal.

NEVR-DULL can be purchased in any ACE or True Value Hardware stores and automotive stores in Calif. such as Chief Auto, Auto Zone, Auto Trac etc. (not pep boys). Also it is now available in K-Mart and Wal-Mart in the automotive sections.

Thank you for writing to us.

Mark Ax

Date: Wed, 18 Feb 1998 09:05:14 PST
From: "Mats 0ljare" <oljare@hotmail.com>

Thanks for your responses.

Regarding the double-bell euphonium:

It seems strange that they were only made for a long time ago. If you check out Anthony Braxton´s home at http://www.wesleyan.edu/music/braxton (i think),you can see that he prescribes a double-bell euphonium.Don´t you remember"76 trombones led the big parade"??It goes"There were double-bell euphoniums"...There is in fact a double-bell euphonium at display in Musikmuseet,Stockholm,although it´s described as"combination baritone horn and valve trombone". Also,if the double-bell euphonium were used for fast trombone passages,why didn´t they just use a standard valve trombone instead?? Seems strange to me.

Anyway,i was looking through some orchestral scores when i noticed the use of mutes for bassoon(??)and clarinet(????)How do you mute a clarinet??I´ve heard a muted bassoon on a Jan Johansson album(Musik genom fyra sekler),but the muted clarinet??On some old dixieland jazz band photos you can see something which looks like a mute on the clarinet.Often it looks like a cylindrical plastic box,about 3 inches deep and 6 inches wide,mysteriously hanging;covering the bell(sometimes under it!!!).

There was a load of horns around back then-slide sax,soprano trombone,metal clarinets and the alto horns in all kinds of shapes and sizes.It´s important to know that the Saxhorn is an entirely different instrument than the fluegel/tuba family,from soprano to bass;having valves that,when pressed,causes the air to take a SHORTER route through the horn,thus inverting the normal roles of brass instrument valves.

Among some instrument catalogs i found a oboe folder from the Strasser-Marigaux,featuring a Musette.This seems to be a small oboe,tuned higher than the oboe but identical in every other aspect(there were a picture of it).I´ve never seen one before,so i would like to know the history of it and if there´s any repertoire. Also,i found a Leblanc poster of"the clarinet family",featuring a subcontrabass clarinet,beat-up and dirty,along with the regular horns-from contrabass to Ab piccolo.And Selmer and Buffet Crampton both makes straight(bass clarinet shaped)contralto clarinets,but no contrabass.Just where are the people who buy all these instruments?? I want to hear them!!!

-+- Mats Öljare -+-

Composer,baritone saxophonist etc.
Planned work:Passage,for heckelphone&string quartet
http://www.angelfire.com/mo/oljare (now working!!!)

Don´t you think we should get one of these silly"codes"for this list!!!

Were getting more and more of these bottle orchestras over here right now...They should get a damejeanne!!!

Date: Wed, 18 Feb 1998 12:52:29 -0800
From: Grant Green <gdgreen@contrabass.com>
Subject: Ophicleides

Here's a post fresh from the Klarinet list, regarding a Sax ophicleide for sale. For anyone interested, the contact is cjsax <cjsax@club-internet.fr>, SMIGA Michel.

On Wed, 18 Feb 1998, Michael Kolos wrote:

> Date: Wed, 18 Feb 1998 00:08:33 -0500
> From: Michael Kolos <makolos@julian.uwo.ca>
> To: klarinet@listserv.cc.va.us
> Subject: Re: Ophicleide?

> Here's a translation in case you were wondering:
> "I'd like to tell you about one of my clients who has an actual ophicleide*
> that was numbered (catalogued?) by C. J. Sax, dating from 1835. It has not
> been restaured and is for sale for 20,000F ($5,000 Can, 4,000US approx.) in
> its current condition. Please don't hesitate to call me if you know of
> someone who is interested in the museum-quality item. Waiting for your
> answer and best wishes for 1998."
> That's basically what it says - so you were pretty much right on.

> Michael Kolos

"One of my customers has at present an ophicleide..." would be better.
Pedantically avec mes sentiments les plus distingues (but no accents),

Roger Shilcock

> From: cjsax <cjsax@club-internet.fr>
> SMIGA Michel
> Fax: 02 32 55 26 95.

> Artisan luthier vents anciens.
> Early wind instruments repairer.
> Wiederhesteller alten instrumenten.

> > > Madame, Monsieur, le 1/2/98
> > > Je me permets de vous signaler qu'un de mes clients a actuellement
> > > un ophicleide Charles Joseph SAX numerote=82 datant de 1835, non
> > > restaure, a vendre 20000F dans l'etat. N'hesitez pas a me contacter
> > > dans le cas ou vous connaitriez quelqu'un interesse=82 par cette
> > > piece de musee. Dans l'attente de vous lire, meilleures salutations
> > > et bonne annee 98! SM.

Date: Wed, 18 Feb 1998 11:28:55 -0500
From: green@fr.com (GDG)
Subject: (fwd) F/S Conn Bass Sax

Here's another bass sax for sale, if anyone's interested...

On 15 Feb 1998 13:17:38 GMT, in alt.music.saxophone "Chris Garrett" <chris@chrisgarrett.prestel.co.uk> wrote:

>For Sale, LYON & HEALEY (CONN CHICAGO) Bass Sax. With case. Good condition.


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