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Vol. 1, No. 30

9 August 1996

EDITOR'S NOTE: Let's welcome new subscriber Phil Neuman!

I'd write more today, but its been one of those weeks!

Date: Thu, 08 Aug 1996 00:19:39 -0700
From: Michael David Ricketts <mickeyr@usit.net>
Subject: Contrabass saxes


I think I already know the answer to this, but does the contrabass sax require a stand to be played? How much does one weigh? Also, what are the diameters of the largest pads on one? From the pictures I've seen, they look small compared to the diameter of the bell. Any more info on them will be apprciated, as I have become quite fascinated with them and am anxiously awaiting a recording of one to be posted on your page.

Oh, yeah. Thanks for setting me straight on the "virus" thing. :)



The contrabass sax has been on a stand in every picture I've ever seen. I don't even want to think about hanging one of those around my neck! As for the weight, perhaps Paul Cohen can advise...


Date: Thu, 08 Aug 1996 00:44:42 -0700
From: Michael David Ricketts <mickeyr@usit.net>
Subject: Sarrusophones

Just out of curiosity, how did you figure out the fingerings for the bass and cotra sarrusophones? Are they anything like fingerings for other woodwinds?

BTW If you could send me the picture of the "worlds largest sax" I would be very interested.


Trial and error!

Seriously, the fingering system is approximately Boehm (like saxophones and flutes), so its mainly a matter of trying sax fingerings, most of which work just fine. The main differences are that there aren't any "automatic" keys on the sarrusophone: if you hold the G# key down, the G# pad opens, even if you have RH keys down (on the sax, the G# pad closes automatically when any RH key is pressed). There are no "fork" fingerings or 1&1 Bb fingerings (LH1 + RH1 is Bb on most Boehm woodwinds). Basically, there is a dearth of alternate fingerings (so far....). Bassoonists go through the same process whenever they play a new instrument, as bassoons are notoriously variable: a good fingering for a given note on one instrument is unsatisfactory on another instrument. Being a bassoonist from way back, its now second nature.

In the event of confusion, one can always look and see which key closes which pad.

I'll post the subcontra sax picture as soon as I have time to fiddle with it (a little size reduction is in order).


Today's Instrument 4 Sale post:

I think someone was looking for a bass clarinet?...

Author: rpu@pacbell.net at smtp
Date: 8/8/96 10:35 AM
Subject: Re: woodwinds for sale
------------------------------- Message Contents -------------------------------
Grant Green wrote:
> A quick question: what do you mean by "baritone clarinet"?
> Is this a basset horn? (A basset horn looks like an alto
> clarinet, but is pitched in F and has extra keys to extend
> the range downward, typically either extra little finger
> keys or several right thumb keys.)
> If it *is* as basset horn, I may be interested in it.
> Please let me know.
> gdgreen@crl.com
> <snip>
> >Selmer Paris, Baritone Clarinet.<snip>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------
> Grant D. Green grant_green@cc.chiron.com
> http://www.crl.com/~gdgreen/index.html
> ---------------------------------------------------------------
I believe it is a bass clarinet.
The Bass Clarinet:
Serial #561
Beautiful instrument. Silver was polished and instrument was overhauled in 1988. Would appear to be the original case.
Please call or email if you need additional info. 714 776 3061.
Thanks, Mark

Date: Fri, 9 Aug 1996 10:18:42 -0700 (PDT)
From: Philip Neuman <neuman@uofport.edu>
Subject: Kling


I think that "Kling's Modern Orchestration" has been out of print for years. I see in Worldcat that it's in quite a few libraries around the country. What Prof. Kling has to say about the ophicleide (which I play as well) is especially amusing: "...but as a solo instrument it would be simply disgusting."

I would like to sign on the mailing list. neuman@uofport.edu

Phil Neuman

Reminds me of the orchestration text that said, of all the saxophones, only the baritone had a "pleasing tone quality."

Paul Cohen is also selling his old ophicleide. We think its a Bb bass: Paul said he's played it about twice. I suspect it would drive my wife over the edge, though...


From: <Mike_Mori/PSDI.PSDI@smtpgw.psdi.com>
Date: 9 Aug 96 4:02:07
Subject: contrabass-l

Hi Grant,

Thank you for having me on your subscriber list. I really enjoyed reading everyone's stories and questions.

This email address won't be valid anymore as I am leaving this company and moving to California. As soon as I get online again, I will contact you again.



Hurry back, and
Welcome to California!


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