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2004-12-23

 
From: "Sung Hwang Wang" 
Subject: [CB] Contra
Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 16:43:46 -0800


Thank you Ken on your useful advice on preventing slipping peg, and thank you John and Grant for sharing your experience on contra seating.  Normally I would prefer sitting among the clarinets for that homogenous sound and familiar feel, but as I also happen to sit by the exit door where people are always coming and going, and as far as I can sense, not everyone is particularly wary about my monster horns.  And I can’t always be there guarding them either, so this necessitates that I consider a different seating location.  There is a lot less traffic and activities around area where the low brass sit.  I also prefer a wider space to maneuver the horns, which is possible here.

Well, I will discuss this with the conductor for the optimum solution.

Does anyone carry a set of small hand tools with their instruments?  I find that a set of precision screwdrivers and pliers really handy when there is a need for quick fixes/adjustments.  I find that from time to time this is necessary just to bring the horns back in shape.  It definitely saves me many last minute panics.

I want to thank everyone for making me feel welcome and I appreciate all your comments and suggestions.

Where can I find/purchase music written for contra clarinets, solo or with piano?  I would like to develop a repertoire for a possible future recital.  Failing the availability of original pieces, I suppose music for bass clarinet, string bass, cello, contrabassoon are fair game?

Regards,

Willy


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Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 17:04:31 -0800 (PST)
From: john webster
Subject: Re: [CB] Contra


I carry small screwdrivers, and small leatherman combo tool, rubber bands, a glue stick, some pad cleaning papers and powder, 4inone oil, sandpaper, reed rush and my music glasses in a small bag. Most of the stuff gets used in the course of a year, usually on my friends sax's.  John

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Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 17:30:34 -0800 (PST)
From: Dean McMakin
Subject: Re: [CB] [CB Digest]

I'm playing contra clarinet and contrabassoon, so I sit between the bass clarinets and bassoons. That part is a no-brainer. On one side is the saxes and the other side the clarinets. I agree that you should try to maintain the clarinet choir sound, and if you sit next to the tubas or the percussion, you'll never hear yourself. Contra clarinet and contrabassoon blend very well with the bari sax when playing in octaves, so I recommend sitting near the bari.
Dean

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From: "Sung Hwang Wang"
Subject: [CB] Contrabass Clarinet Seating
Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 10:12:17 -0800

Hello everyone,

Just wondering if I could get some feedback from the more experienced.
Where do contrabass clarinetists normally sit in the band?

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From: Paul Berry
Subject: [CB] Woodwind bass clarinet
Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 17:52:48 -0800


Woodwind & Brasswind lists a "low C plastic body" bass clarinet "with all professional features" and no further description.

Anyone have knowledge or experience of the manufacturer or the instrument?

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From: Ken Shaw
Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 21:19:43 EST
Subject: Re: [CB] Contrabass Clarinet Seating

Obviously that the contrabass clarinet should be in the FRONT row in the MIDDLE.  It's the foundation of the band and deserves to be seen and heard at its best.  Remember the great march Solid Men to the Front, which gives the low instruments the recognition they deserve.

Ken Shaw

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Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 19:54:04 -0800 (PST)
From: Heather McCamey
Subject: Re: [CB] Contrabass Clarinet Seating


Since I currently play in two groups, I have two answers:

#1.  I'm on the third row at the conductor's right. Rows 1 and 2 are the clarinets (little ones).  Bass clarinet is on the end of row 3, and I'm beside her, with the euphs next to me, then the trombones leading toward the middle of the band.  The tubas sit behind the bones, on their own row.  We have a part-time bassoon, and when she's there, she's somewhat one row in front of and caddy corner from me.  Nobody is behind me (which is nice, because I can keep my case, horn stand, and all the accouterments right with me). This seating works well, because the clarinet family is together, the tubas are close enough that I can hear them and we can match well (but their sound doesn't bury mine).  And, when I don't have a part or get bored, I read off the euph part, which sometimes has some cool stuff.

#2  I sit in the middle of the second row, smack in front of the conductor.  Clarinets/flutes split the first row.  The bass clarinet is to my right, the bassoons to my left.  Depending how many musicians show up (and on the whim of the conductor, who keeps rearranging the setup), either the french horns or the saxes are directly behind me.  Tubas are in the back, and bit further off than I care for, but in this particular group I more often have contrabassoon part than doubling tuba.  This is also a similar arrangement to where I sat in the college band.
 
> Just wondering if I could get some feedback from the more experienced. 
> Where do contrabass clarinetists normally sit in the band?

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From: "John Kilpatrick"
Subject: Re: [CB] [CB Digest]
Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 11:54:34 -0000


> From: "Sung Hwang Wang"
> Just wondering if I could get some feedback from the more experienced.
> Where do contrabass clarinetists normally sit in the band?

I am also wondering what parts the contra usually plays. I've joined a "concert band" recently, and so-far I've only come across one genuine contrabass part. I sit next to the clarinets, and usually play from the bass clarinet part (it happens that there is no bass clarinet player in this band at present). I make my own judgements and discoveries about whether and where the part is doubling the bass line and can be played as written (i.e. an octave down from bass clarinet) or is a middle part and ought to be played an octave up (i.e. bass clarinet pitch). Sometimes I take home some other parts (e.g. bass trombone, string bass) and concoct my own. In some pieces there is no bass clarinet part, and I'm given a 3rd or 4th clarinet part - so I double on  Bb soprano for those pieces. So "adjacent to 3rd clarinets" is the right answer for that band.

>Sung Hwang Wang says:
> The contra alto has a peg that sometimes slips. When I used to play it
>without a neck strap, when the peg slipped without a warning, the bell ended up
>crashing onto the floor, which can't be good. <

I know someone who has made a rubber foot for the peg out of a sawn-off rubber dog bone.

John Kilpatrick

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From: "arthur grossman"
Subject: Re: [CB] [CB Digest]
Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 05:02:00 -0800


That is too bad.  I will be sure that they make a recording and send you a copy.  Arthur


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