Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2004 17:07:23 -0800
From: "Grant Green"
Subject: [CB] ContraForte
Hi,
I see from the current issue of the Double Reed that someone
brought a Wolf Contraforte to the last annual meeting. Did anyone
attend? Has anyone played one, or had a chance to compare it vs
contrabassoon?
Enjoy,
Grant
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Date: Mon, 06 Dec 2004 17:20:00 -0800
From: "Chuck Guzis"
Subject: [CB] Anyone looking for a nice bass flute?
Hey gang,
My wife is selling her barely four-year-old Eva Kingma bass
flute (she recently took delivery of a Kotato) and I thought some of
you might be interested. All photos and details are at:
Best regards,
Chuck
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From: "arthur grossman"
Subject: Re: [CB] ContraForte
Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2004 19:45:30 -0800
Grant: there were several contrafortes in Melbourne. In
fact a contraforte quartet was played there. I have played them
several times at IDRS conventions ( you know that I represent Wolf
here) and he is coming next week-end and bringing me one. So
anyone on the list who is interested in trying it can contact
me. Arthur
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Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2004 10:27:36 -0800
From: "Grant Green"
Subject: Re: [CB] ContraForte
So how did they sound? I'm curious (a) how they compared to
regular contrabassoons, (b) how they compare to the Wolf contrabassoon,
and (c) if the different players had noticably different timbres, or if
they all sounded pretty much identical.
Wish I could make it to Seattle this weekend!
Grant
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From: "arthur grossman"
Subject: Re: [CB] ContraForte
Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2004 11:17:45 -0800
Grant:
They have a more direct sound than a normal contra, including
the Wolf contra, and they have a FAR larger dynamic range, plus greater
clarity . I was not in Melbourne, so I did not hear the quartet, but
based on IDRS meetings, where various people have played, they do not
sound identical. Now, bear in mind that the reeds are nowhere like
contra reeds, hence everyone that tried them at IDRS, with the
exception of Hank Skolnick, used my reeds. Hank made his own and
he now owns a contraforte. He was one of the quartet and also
played a concerto there on contraforte. I expect to have this
contraforte until it sells, so maybe you could make it up at another
time.
Arthur
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Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2004 13:20:10 -0800 (PST)
From: Steve Marcus
Subject: Re: [CB] ContraForte
arthur grossman wrote:
>>They have a more direct sound than a normal
contra, including the Wolf contra, and they have a FAR larger dynamic
range, plus greater clarity .
With that in mind (and ear), what, if any, advantage is there to
a normal contra over a ContraForte?
Steve Marcus
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From: "arthur grossman"
Subject: Re: [CB] ContraForte
Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2004 15:20:03 -0800
Well, that might be hard to say. One thing is certain; the
contraforte takes more air than a normal contra, hence passages such as
the beginning of Zarathustra will be that much harder. Depending on the
player and reed, it may or may not sound sufficiently like a contra
that other players in the section will feel comfortable with
it. After all, we are all subject to what we are accustomed
to hearing. Anything which departs in any way ( often even if it
is an improvement) will be perceived as not being the right
thing. Just look at the controversy over French and German
bassoons.
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Date: Wed, 08 Dec 2004 00:45:47 +0100
Subject: Re: [CB] ContraForte (vs. Contrabassoon)
From: Klaus Bjerre
> And, for that matter, so-called HIP's would never accept a
contraforte.
Hi Steve
You have just surpassed my understanding of English, an easy
task btw.
What are HIP's?
May they be applied for orthopaedic replacements?
Klaus
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Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2004 15:56:23 -0800 (PST)
From: Steve Marcus
Subject: Re: [CB] ContraForte (vs. Contrabassoon)
Klaus Bjerre wrote:
> And, for that matter, so-called HIP's would never accept a
contraforte.
>>What are HIP's?
"Historically Informed Performances"
>>May they be applied for orthopaedic replacements?
Two points for humor, Klaus.
Steve Marcus
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