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2004-11-18

 
From: David Richoux 
Subject: Re: [CB] Lowest Notes, etc.
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 18:39:03 -0800


I have heard several "Flame Organs" - some at Burning Man and one recording from a French artist/musician that can generate very "musical" low frequency tones. I cannot describe the total ear/body relationship in experiencing these instruments - I guess you just have to be there!

I was also remembering a Canadian instrument/sound chamber called Silophone - (www.silophone.net ) a huge resonating chamber formed by a group of giant grain silos with big speakers to send sound samples out into the echo space. You can be there in person or listen in on the web and submit sound samples to be heard by the real-time and on-line audience

While I was looking for the website for Silophone I found this page: http://www.acousticecology.org/soundscapelinks.html
some interesting sub-contrabass stuff to be found both in nature and and man-made creations.
Anybody else remember the TV program that James Burke did on PBS many years ago (probably "Connections") where he was talking about the earliest history of man and music while standing next to a very large rock somewhere in deepest Africa - then he hit the rock with a big stick an it gave out a most remarkable low gong tone!

Or was I hallucinating? ;-)

Dave Richoux

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From: Richard Spittel
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 22:11:36 EST
Subject: [CB] Bass Clarinet Question


OK, I know bass clarinets are almost too small for this list, but I have a question about currrently available ones.   I have a high school student whose parents are starting to make noises about buying one for their daughter.  They can hear the big difference in her sound between her school Selmer (USA), i.e., Bundy; and my own Selmer.  We're both amazed at how much easier it is to play technical stuff on the Selmer than the Bundy, and are ticked off at how often the Bundy goes out of adjustment. 

Other than new Selmer or Yamaha models, are there some out there which could be considered mid-line or step-up instruments?  What about Low-Eb vs. Low C? (I know that could be a difference in price).  She doesn't want to major in music, but wants to continue playing after high school, and would like to have her own decent instrument, so she's not at the mercy of whatever instruments a school or organization may have laying around.

Thanx in advance for your comments.

Richard Spittel
Baltimore, MD
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Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 22:20:55 -0500
From: Edward Branham
Subject: Re: [CB] Bass Clarinet Question


My 2 cents worth ...

Please keep in mind that many colleges & universities will award a music scholarship with NO requirement that one major or minor in music ... only that one shall participate at some defined level (one public performance per quarter, for instance - and the associated rehersals of course) in some part of the institution's music program.

Getting the extended range horn may be a great investment from that perspective.

--
"The Republican in me likes initiative and orderliness. The Democrat in me thinks the public really is this stupid and needs shepherding. And the Libertarian in me wants to scream, then move to Belize."


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From: "Sherry Katz"
Subject: Re: [CB] Bass Clarinet Question
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 21:32:32 -0800


I have quite a bit of experience with Bass Clarinets.  I have at least tried just about every plastic student bass clarinet currently made and a few older ones.  I currently own a Buffet Low C model, and previously owned a Yamaha.  I have tried friend's Selmer models.

First, without exception every student bass clarinet is an inferior instrument.  This has its roots in the octave key mechanism which is simplified and inadequate.  Many years ago I played the older student models with two octave keys.  They were vastly superior to the newer horns.  Of the current student horns the Bundy and Yamaha models are the "best" but in my opinion this means they are merely adequate.  The low register is OK but the upper register is stuffy.

In the newer instruments the Selmer and the Buffet are both excellent although each has its advocates.  The Buffet is slightly cheaper. Personally I prefer the Buffet.  For a while I owned a Yamaha. The Yamaha is quite a bit cheaper and the ergonomics are probably superior, but I could never achieve as rich of a sound as on the Buffet.

By comparison I own a few soprano clarinets and I often play a plastic Yamaha which I find to be quite satisfactory.  Similarly I think there are many saxophones which are fine.  Unfortunately there is no inexpensive Bass Clarinet option that will enable the musician to play at a high level.


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