From: "Eric J. \"Rick\" Allen"
Subject: [CB] Intonation thread
Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2004 02:21:59 -0500
Thanks to all who are responding to my initial inquiry! I
admit that I never got that far in music theory...
I'm still trying to iron out the mathematical nuances here, like
how the Pythagorean stuff got in there, among other things.
Thanks again for all the input!
Eric in MN
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From: "John Kilpatrick"
Subject: Re: [CB] [CB Digest]
Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2004 09:11:22 +0100
> Does anyone know the name (or how I may get hold of) of the
recording of
> what sounds like a never ending scale of chords on the
organ?
I'd also like to know about this! I've used a potentially endless cycle
of 24 chords in a Magnificat (that will probably never get performed)
that can be seen at
http://www.kilp.dsl.pipex.com/kilp20/magnunc.pdf
(page 5), and I always wondered if this had been done by someone
before. Sorry - it's getting a little off-subject.
John Kilpatrick
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Date: Wed, 06 Oct 2004 08:54:40 -0400
From: Lawrence de Martin
Subject: Re: [CB] Well Tempering
Just last night I listened to 12 pieces from the Well Tempered
Clavier played exceptionally well (pun intended) on a non-well tempered
harpsichord re-tuned during intermission. Most of the music I
hear both live and recorded is not well-tempered, and I consider
rationalized intonation an anomaly of a small subset of music in one
culture with a mere 200 years of dominance, hopefully near an end.
I also heard Saturday last an HIP of Handel with 15 baroque
double reeds (yes, a Baroque contrabassoon!). This was one of the
most beautiful sounds of my life, which caused tears to run
freely. I gave away my conflicting tickets to Lang-Lang with the
NY Phil, with no regrets.
The native music of five out of six continents, 90+% of the
world population and nine out of eleven centuries in my collection of
western European tradition are "micro-tonal", which has come to mean
everything other than well. Contemporary genres jazz, blues, 20th
century orchestral and chamber music are micro-tonal, and even romantic
era string quartets and choral music intone joyously into perfect
chords.
The Conservatory System is like a shackle forged of keys with
finicky adjustments, always off key but never sharply dissonant. I say,
embrace notes that shift as you go up and down, modulate and
harmonize. It's a bit more tricky with winds or frets, but
ultimately more meaningful.
Lawrence de Martin
Greenwich
>>So on to my question: Besides "tempered" (think
Bach's "Wohltempiert
>>Klavier"), what are the other intonation systems used in
music
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From: "Richard Simons"
Subject: [CB] Pentatonic??
Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2004 10:24:10 -0400
GHB is a full scale plus one note.However they are not tuned to
A 440 Which presents problems when playing with other instruments. Nor
is the pitch standardized between makers. Just like all the early
instruments. And they have been considered a weapon. Too bad the early
Scots did not have bass saxes.
Richard Simons
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Date: Wed, 06 Oct 2004 11:37:40 -0700
From: Craig
Subject: Re: [CB] Intonation thread
Eric,
You are right. I don't recall seeing your initial question
actually answered, including by me. Were you speaking of scales,
perhaps? I think the mention of WTK is what had everyone thinking about
tuning schemes.
Craig
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