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Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 16:54:01 -0700
From: "David F."
Subject: Re: [CB] [CB Digest]I'm not getting the full "JIST" of the contrabass list
somehow. I know I used to get a list every day that took up
at least 2-3 pages worth. Now all I seem to be getting is
one hint to a topic without any details or further
conversation. abridged is fine but I like knowing what the
conversation was like that day and what it was about.David Flager
tubadave
List Server wrote:
> >in the collection. I won't go into too many details but I really liked
> >the double-belled "twin-tone" mid sized horn that had both a cup
> >mouthpiece AND a reed horn - select either or both! (I really wanted to
> >try that one out...) and there were quite a few bass horns I had only
> >seen in books until now. A Must See for all of you.
>
> I'm not sure that the concept of "too many details" applies to this
> list, at least not in the context of exotic instruments and bass
> horns previously seen only in books ;-)
>
> At least tell us about the hybrid horn: reed and cup mouthpiece? Did
> it have valves, keys, or both?---------------------------------------------------------
Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 17:08:16 -0700
From: Grant Green
Subject: Re: [CB] [CB Digest]
>I'm not getting the full "JIST" of the contrabass list
>somehow. I know I used to get a list every day that took up
>at least 2-3 pages worth. Now all I seem to be getting is
>one hint to a topic without any details or further
>conversation. abridged is fine but I like knowing what the
>conversation was like that day and what it was about.
>
>David Flager
>tubadaveI guess we all need to write more ;-)
Have you ever been at a party, or other large gathering full of many
people carrying on many conversations at once, when all of a sudden
everyone just happens to be quiet at the same time? That happens to
lists too: after all, the list is just sort of an online
conversation. At this time of year, the maximum number of people are
off on vacation, and many aren't checking their email (I know - I see
all the bounce messages from mailboxes over quota). And some of us
are chained to our desks, trying to crank out a few patent
applications...Add to that the fact that about half the people in this particular
conversation don't hear what you said for about 24 hours, and you can
see why some of the threads get a little disjointed. The main thing
that keeps threads going, though, is an interesting topic. This list
is held together by the fact that we have a pretty good overlap in
interests (at least with regard to certain aspects of music). Our
primary hurdle is that "news" in the contrabass world doesn't happen
that often (compared, say, with a list devoted to a rock band that
tours annually). However, since there is a small but steady influx
of new subscribers (we average around 2-3 new subscribers per week),
it is worthwhile revisiting topics from time to time. At least until
I find a free search engine to index the list archives... ;-)You can tell its Friday, and that I just filed this week's patent
application :-)SO, who has an interesting new topic to keep us all online all weekend?
Grant
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---------------------------------------------------------Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 21:35:51 -0700
From: David Richoux
Subject: Re: [CB] Another report from South East Dakota (and Wisconsin)
Grant Green wrote:
> >in the collection. I won't go into too many details but I really liked
> >the double-belled "twin-tone" mid sized horn that had both a cup
> >mouthpiece AND a reed horn - select either or both! (I really wanted to
> >try that one out...) and there were quite a few bass horns I had only
> >seen in books until now. A Must See for all of you.
>
> I'm not sure that the concept of "too many details" applies to this
> list, at least not in the context of exotic instruments and bass
> horns previously seen only in books ;-)
>
> At least tell us about the hybrid horn: reed and cup mouthpiece? Did
> it have valves, keys, or both?sorry, I was not too lucid when I sent that message.
from what I could interpret from the limited reference note and looking
at the details of the instrument, the horn was vaguely like a double
bell euphonium except the second section had an internal metal reed
somewhere that would give a totally different sound quality (sine vs
square wave?) and button valves could chose the natural horn, the reed
horn or both at once! I took a picture but it has not been developed
yet (not that the picture would explain too much) I could not find
anything on the Shrine to Music website.some of the other exotic things I saw were some nice dragon head
trombones and a 6 valve "right angle" trombone, a slide alto saxophone,
a Conn-o-sax, several brass/wood serpents and "russian horns" (and a
bunch of ophecleides.) they did seem to be lacking in helicons - only
had a few on display!overall it was a great museum, especially for the cost of admission (free)
all you have to do is find a reason to go to South Dakota...dave Richoux
---------------------------------------------------------From: "Helen Kahlke"
Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2001 09:08:48 -0300
Subject: [CB] GreetingsHello. I just joined the list serve, but I've been checking out the
contrabass site for quite a while now.I'm a saxophone player, and for the last year have played a Buescher bass
sax circa. 1922. I know there are at least a couple bassers in the crowd, so
I look forward to exchanging ideas.How I came to own this bass sax is actually quite the story. In Reader's
Digest form, here's what happened: Someone in New Orleans was selling it. I
live in Atlantic Canada and was worried about it being damaged by the
shipping and our Customs people, so I decided to fly down and pick it up. It
had just been completely restored, and came with it's original (very poorly
padded of course) case which was functional. So I bought it it's own airline
ticket and the 2 of us flew back together side by side. Quite the bonding
experience! Of course it didn't fit in my car, so I had to buy it a station
wagon. Because it has been so pampered compared to my other horns, it has
been nicknamed "Baby".Baby now lives very happily with the rest of my saxophone family in my music
studio. It is still awaiting its first public performance here in the great
white north (not a lot of gigging opportunities for a bass sax I'm afraid).
I might drag it out next month for a jazz festival though, just for fun.Helen
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From: "Owen P-S"
Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2001 12:11:58 -0400
Subject: [CB] bass and contrabass saxophonesHow much would a bass sax, and/or, a contrabass sax cost from L.A. Sax or any other company that is producing them now? Also, are the newer productions of the bass and contrabass the same as older models; have the newer ones been changed? Lastly, what would the aproximate cost be of buying an older or authentic bass or contrabass sax be?
Thanks
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From: "Jean Adler"
Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2001 11:35:57 -0500
Subject: [CB] s.d.A reason to go to South Dakota. As a South Dakotan (transplanted to
Minnesota) I take offense.
Let's see...there's Mount Rushmore, the Badlands, [see also web cam]
Spearfish Canyon, and the always tacky yet somehow entertaining Wall Drug.
Along Interstate 90, west of Sioux Falls on the Montrose exit is the Porter
Sculpture Garden. In Brookings home of SDSU and the Pride of the Dakotas
Marching Band is McCrory Gardens, a nationally recognized research garden.
In Rosholt you will find the International Vinegar Museum, I am not kidding.
Near Sisseton is Sica Hollow, especially pretty in the fall and historic
Fort Sisseton. If you like wildlife art (can't say I do) check out the
Terry Redlin Museum in Watertown. There is the Corn Palace in Mitchell.
The Laura Ingalls Wilder home in DeSmet.And let's not forget Dances with Wolves was filmed in South Dakota as was
the climactic scene from North by Northwest.Enough said. Geez, hasn't my life been bad enough, being a bass clarinetist
and being from South Dakota. Guess you can call me the Rodney Dangerfield
of the contra list.Jean
Oh wait, famous South Dakotans...Bob Barker, George McGovern, Hebert
Humphrey (although Minnesota claims him), Tom Brokaw, Mary Hart, Cheryl
Ladd, Pat O'Brian,
and lest we forget Senate MAJORITY leader and personal friend of mine Tom
Daschle.---------------------------------------------------------
Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2001 10:10:38 -0700
From: David Richoux
Subject: Re: [CB] s.d.
Jean Adler wrote:
> A reason to go to South Dakota. As a South Dakotan (transplanted to
> Minnesota) I take offense.Jean, Jean, Jean...
I have spent many wonderful days in South Dakota - and I have been to
many of the places you mentioned (and a few you didn't.)
I was attempting a bit of mid-western humor (I was born in Omaha and
spent many summers in the general area.)BTW, for more SD fun, go to the American Roadside Attractions site ( a
wonderful listing of all sorts of odd museums and tourist traps all over
the country. http://www.roadsideamerica.com/ )Dave Richoux
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