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2001-04-24

 
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 01:47:04 +0100
From: simon bull
Subject: [CB] Introduction

Greetings!

I've just joined the list, and would like to say hello. I'm a reed
doubler, living in Bochum, Germany, where I play the alto
sax/flute/clarinet/piccolo book at Starlight Express. (Look, I have to
eat, ok.) For fun, it's the other end of the reed section I go to: bass,
contra-alto and contrabass clarinets, bassoon and contrabassoon, and
bari sax.

I was looking at the digests on the internet, and saw there a discussion
about various ideas for extending Vito or Bundy contra clarinets down to
low C. I had this idea, also, (mine are Vitos) and took my BBb down to
Munich, to Benedict Eppelsheim, the designer and builder of the Tubax.
He was up for it, and built me a great extension. Three thumb keys fixed
to the body that connect to three keys on a new, longer, bell.
(removable, of course) The instrument is no longer than before, as the
extension points upward, so to speak, and he has also added an
adjustable peg, so I don't have find just the right stool to be
comfortable. This also protects his work, as the bell no longer rests on
the floor.

I'll happily take some photos of it, if someone can tell me how to send
them in. (I'm a bit new to all this.)

Regards,
Simon Bull

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Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 21:23:48 -0400
From: Lawrence de Martin
Subject: Re: [CB] 256' ocarina

Grant Green  wrote:

> What are the frequency equations for aeolian turbulence?

Turbulence is chaotic, and the mathematics of chaos lose me beyond the Feigenbaum number.  Aeolian generators used as instruments have a frequency controlling element which is designed to dominate the turbulence and produce a harmonic sequence.  The development of embouchure is focused on smoothing the air flow and reducing turbulence.

Natural aeolian generators tend to be mainly aperiodic, like the sound of wind through a forest or in a convertible on the highway.  The turbulence "breaks up" the air mass in the window so that the oscillation of a car ocarina isn't quite regular.  Think of it as a fast beat, and try to count it off - I think it has less than professional rhythmic consistancy.

I have been collecting contrabass microphones, so an interesting experiment would be recording the car ocarina sound for analysis.  Does anyone have a portable digital recorder near NYC or SW Connecticut?  It would need to be flat to 10Hz or so and preferably have a phantom power mic preamp.

Larry de Martin

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Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 13:12:11 -0400
From: Eric Mumpower
Subject: [CB] Endpeg foot material?

Does anyone have suggestions for materials to use as foot-material for a
bass clarinet endpeg? (The endpeg in question has a shallow cylindrical
socket which previously held a disc of some kind of rubber, roughly .25"
thick and .75" in diameter.) Names of suppliers would also be useful. =)

Ideal qualities include: grippy (high coefficient of static friction) and
non-marking (so I don't leave black marks on the floor).

(On reflection, I suppose I could cannibalize the sole from an old pair of
shoes, but that seems wasteful, and it may be hard to find such a thick plug
of material.)
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Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 10:23:36 -0700
From: Grant Green
Subject: Re: [CB] Endpeg foot material?
 

>Does anyone have suggestions for materials to use as foot-material for a
>bass clarinet endpeg? (The endpeg in question has a shallow cylindrical
>socket which previously held a disc of some kind of rubber, roughly .25"
>thick and .75" in diameter.) Names of suppliers would also be useful. =)

How about cutting up an old mouse pad?

Grant

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Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 10:53:33 -0700
From: "Chuck Guzis"
Subject: Re: [CB] Endpeg foot material?
 

>>Does anyone have suggestions for materials to use as foot-material for a
>>bass clarinet endpeg? (The endpeg in question has a shallow cylindrical
>>socket which previously held a disc of some kind of rubber, roughly .25"
>>thick and .75" in diameter.) Names of suppliers would also be useful.=
 =3D)

If you can deal with a somewhat thicker pad, electronics or small appliance=
 parts retailers have standard rubber feet that might do the trick.  e.g.:

http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3D1231322423

Best regards,
Chuck
 

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Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 19:59:53 +0200
From: "Klaus Bjerre"
Subject: Re: [CB] Endpeg foot material?

Watch out for solutions used by string bass players. For my double bass I
have a round rubber sole with a "peg-receiver" mounted on its back by means
of a ball-and-socket device.

And then there is the cello solution: a piece of woof with predrilled holes.
String mounted to the legs of your chair.

Klaus

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>From: Eric Mumpower

> *
> Does anyone have suggestions for materials to use as foot-material for a
> bass clarinet endpeg? (The endpeg in question has a shallow cylindrical
> socket which previously held a disc of some kind of rubber, roughly .25"
> thick and .75" in diameter.) Names of suppliers would also be useful. =)
>
> Ideal qualities include: grippy (high coefficient of static friction) and
> non-marking (so I don't leave black marks on the floor).
>
> (On reflection, I suppose I could cannibalize the sole from an old pair of
> shoes, but that seems wasteful, and it may be hard to find such a thick plug
> of material.)

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Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 13:59:20 -0400
From: "John Webster"
Subject: Re: [CB] Endpeg foot material?

I put a peice of felt, with a stickie backing on the bottem of my peg and it works very nicely.  The felt is the kind that they use to put on the backs of picture frames to keep them from marking the walls, Unfortunatly  a sheet of these things was (and still is) in one of our junk drawers  so I have no idea where we got them. Probably any "notions" dept.   Another idea which I considered was to use a little "shoe goo".

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Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 13:59:51 -0400
From: "John Webster"
Subject: Re: [CB] Endpeg foot material?

also a good idea

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From: BJacobs571
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 17:08:17 EDT
Subject: Re: [CB] Endpeg foot material?

My buffet Bass Clarinet has a black rubber ball on the end of the peg. so a
ball from a toy shop might do. It has the advantage of working at any angle
to the floor.

Regards Bernard Jacobs
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