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Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2001 22:28:49 -0800
From: "Timothy J. Tikker"
Subject: Re: [CB] octobass clarinet

My understanding was that the Bb octobass went to its written extended low C, i.e. an octave lower
than the Bb contrabass's written low C, which would then be Bb of the 64' octave, i.e. a whole
tone below 32' C (16 Hz), an a minor seventh above 64' C (8 Hz).

It certainly would be sad if Leblanc continues to refuse to make the octobass again.  I wonder if
a petition from enough interested players and composer could make an impression.  As someone
suggested, perhaps just expressing interest in seeing the lone prototype made fully playable could
lead to something.  It would be good to ask for an opportunity to have the instrument played in
public with works written for it.

- Tim Tikker


Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2001 22:34:29 -0800
From: "Timothy J. Tikker"
Subject: Re: [CB] octocontraalto clarinet

> One octocontrabass and 3 octocontraaltos is said to be made by Leblanc, one of the
> octocontraaltos could be viewed at
> with a picture of Léon Leblanc playing.

Yes, that's the photo I saw in The Woodwind and the Brasswind.  I'll try to file the article I
had on file about it.

- Tim Tikker


From: Fmmck
Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 23:21:17 EST
Subject: Re: [CB] octobass clarinet

In a message dated 1/7/01 10:29:49 PM, tjtikker writes:

<< I wonder if a petition from enough interested players and composer could make an  impression.  As someone
suggested, perhaps just expressing interest in seeing the lone prototype made fully playable could lead to something. >>


Perhaps the answer is in the quantity of instruments they might sell.  As
long as we only want to commission a single instrument, it might not be worth
it to tool up.  However, a larger quantity, say five, might be enough to
justify their effort.

I can imagine that a single new instrument might cost over $50,000, while
five might cost around $15,000 each if built in a single lot. The prospect of
more orders may be the leverage needed to convince them to  use the prototype
to generate interest.

Fred McKenzie

From: "Tom Izzo"
Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 01:19:32 -0600
Subject: Re: [CB] Forwarded by request (late though it is...)


> On Thu, 4 Jan 2001, Tom Izzo wrote:
> > > >Music Professor Harvey Phillips -- known as the "Paganini of the
> > > >Tuba" -- it's a salute to famed musician Arthur Bell, who was born on
> "Arthur?"  I can't figure out where Arthur came from.  Bill Bell, of
> course.  But who is an "Arthur" besides Arthur Lehman or Arthur Pryor?

Be careful of your quotes & judiscious use of "cut and paste". I did NOT
"write" that above. I responded to that as well, but those are someelse's
words, not mine.



Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 10:21:22 -0700
From: Grant Green
Subject: [CB] Fwd: Ariadne auf  Naxos

Forwarded from Monica Fucci,

>From: "monica fucci"
>Subject: Ariadne auf  Naxos
>Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 19:58:05 -0300
>Dear Grant,
>I sent the message to the list, but it returned.
>I sent another messages before with the same problem.
>The question is:
>Do you have any idea who is the publisher of:
>R. STRAUSS. 3 moments of "Ariadne auf Naxos" for female voice and
>double woodwind quintet??????
>Thanks in  advance


Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 10:28:35 -0700
From: Grant Green
Subject: Re: [CB] Octocontrabass clarinet

>hmmmm Not even money will "talk" to these manufacturers?
>Maybe someone like Todd Clontz in Baltimore or Robb Stewart in L:A, would
>try thier hands at this. Todd does a lot of work with Brass customizations &
>"experiments", but Robb does both  WW & Brass.

Well, RS wasn't interested in making a run of sarrusophones when I
talked to him.  He told me that ophicleide keywork was already more
complicated than he wanted to get, and that sarrusophones and other
woodwinds would be even worse.  As he already has a several year
waiting list for his work, he didn't have any interest in taking on
more complicated projects.

> > PS.  Why do somebody call the instruments LeBlanc, when the name
>is G. Leblanc ?
> >
>Probably the same reason why C.G. Conn's are called Conn's & Vincent Bach's
>are called Bach's. I think slang is used for brevity, when referring to
>company rather than person's name.

I think the question was really directed to the erroneous capital
"B".  It is a fairly common error: an American sees "leblanc", and
recognizes that "blanc" is French for "white", and assumes that the
name is actually supposed to be "le Blanc".  But, you are correct:
the company name is actually G. Leblanc.


Grant Green
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