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From: Francis Firth <>
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 10:18:00 +0100
Subject: [CB] Concert

Last night, I went to the final concert in Simon Rattle's Towards the Millennium series and this one was music from the '90s. There were 4 pieces:

Now the reason for mentioning all this.
All pieces except the Ligeti included contrabassoon and contrabass clarinet (looked from the distance like a Selmer) and there was some especially interesting writing in the Holt piece which also had some good contrabassoon writing.
The Henze also included bass flute, Heckelphone, and contrabass trombone (looked like a valved cimbasso from the back of the hall).

The music was all excellent so you can all eat your hearts out!


From: "Bill Cummings" <>
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 08:02:15 -0500
Subject: Re: [CB] [Contra digest]

> Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 02:40:23 -0800
> From: David Flager <>
> Subject: Re: [CB] [Contra digest]
> Is this the Bill Cummings from "Fine Woodworking" Fame??

No, tis not I.


From: "Tom Izzo" <>
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 10:03:29 -0600
Subject: Re: [CB] [Contra digest]

Hello Bill,

> Hi,
> Bill Cummings, new member here.

Welcome to the Contrabass-L

> I've been playing drums & percussion for the past 30 years, and recently =
> picked up the electric bass. I also play a bit of keyboards too. Are =
> there many electric bass players on this list

Yes, Elect Bass is one in my "arsenal". Drums & Percussion, too.
Tho the Bass & Contrabass Trombones & Tubas (& Trumpets), are my main forte.



From: Alberto Pinton <>
Subject: [CB] introduction/Artley bass flute
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 09:03:28 PST

Hi everybody;
I joined this list a while ago and wasn't asked to introduce myself so I'll gladly do it now.
I'm a woodwind player originally from Venice, Italy currently residing in Stockholm, Sweden.
I freelance around here and teach at the Royal Music Academy(...I know, big name,...wasn't my idea though...)ear training, woodwind techniques and improvisation.
I earned my degrees at Berklee College of Music in Boston (Bachelor) and Manhattan School of  Music (Masters), I can say with the utmost conviction that the years in the States where the most productive and stimulating, no doubt...
My main horn is the baritone saxophone, followed by bass and contraalto clarinet, but I obviously play and perform on the smaller horns too.
I guess that's about it...BTW I just purchased the Artley bass flute advertised at Charles Fail, I'd been looking for an affordable bass flute for about 5 years now so when I saw it that was it! Anybody knows anything about the Artley/Oglivie bass flute?
The list is always enjoyable and believe me: I'd also like to brag about my collection of bass saxophones, contrabass clarinets and 'open hole' contrabass flutes but being a father of two doesn't make it easier on the 'desirable but maybe not necessary for my carrier' instruments...I'll get there though, one step at the time.
Thank you for reading this 'way too long' message.


From: Alberto Pinton <>
Subject: [CB] correction
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 09:11:21 PST

...sorry, I meant '...not necessary for my *career*'...of course.


Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 09:40:11 -0700
From: Grant Green <>
Subject: Re: [CB] introduction/Artley bass flute

>Hi everybody;
>I joined this list a while ago and wasn't asked to introduce myself so I'll
>gladly do it now.

Sorry if I forgot to mention that: the old list software would send  out an automatic greeting after one subscribed, which had all the important info in it (e.g., list address, welcome, how to sign off, etc.).  The current software doesn't, and the welcome is basically whatever I think to include at the time...

Everyone else is also invited to send introductions, even if you've been on the list quite a while.


Grant Green     
Professional Fool ->

Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 10:05:46 -0800
From: "Chuck Guzis" <>
Subject: Re: [CB] introduction/Artley bass flute

Hi Alberto,

Congratulations on the new acquisition!  As I understand it from my wife, the Artley/Ogilvie bass was a good one in its day, but many flute choirs now prefer Altus or Kingma basses.  But the price was certainly right on the one you got!  (My wife plays a Yamaha bass herself and loves it dearly).

If anyone's interested, I believe the Rose City Flute Choir in Portland, OR has their Artley bass up for sale--they're trading up to an Altus.  Asking is $2500 OBO.  Email me if you're interested and I'll see if I can get you some contact information.

Rumor has it that Trevor James is considering adding a bass flute to his product line.  TJ already offers a very well made alto for about $1700 that beats anything else for the price.  I understand that TJ altos can be had for less in the US than in the UK where they're made.

Other than Kotato, does anyone know of any good sources for contrabass flutes?  You see, it's my better half's love of harmony flutes that keeps her from complaining about my low brass acquisitions.  And I'm thinking about a new tuba... :)

Chuck Guzis
Eugene, OR

 On 3/31/00,  Alberto Pinton  wrote:
>Hi everybody;
>I joined this list a while ago and wasn't asked to introduce myself so I'll
>gladly do it now...


Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 11:21:00 -0800 (PST)
From: Sybert1ger <>
Subject: [CB] An Introduction

   Well I've been on this list for about a month or so now so I'd thought I'd take a minute to introduce myself.  I started on the alto saxophone when i was about 11, roughly 9 years ago.  A fews years later a friend of mine started playing Bari sax.  This instrument immediately drew my attention and when a few years later my school needed someone to play it for jazz band I jumped at the chance.  I haven't touched my alto more than a few times since.
   I have since then done a lot of reading on the saxophone and other intruments.  I've become obsessed with the low intruments.  And now hope to one day own a contrabass sax (and just about any instrument i can get my hands and money on).  I wanted one before LA sax was even selling them again.
   I have to say that I am not only a contra fan but I think I'm more of an instrument extremist.  I like the really high, the really low, and the really strange.
   I think this is a great list.  Thanks to everyone for making it so interesting.
   If anyone knows of any good places in the Albany, NY area where I could see or hear contra instruments please let me know.

Rick Casey

Modern Rock part of the New Music Revolution and check out!!
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