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Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 16:16:56 -0700
From: Grant Green <>
Subject: [CB] Bass flute!

For anyone interested, Charles Fail has a bass flute listed for sale
(Artley, $2.5K) - see



Grant Green     
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From: "Chip Owen" <>
Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 21:12:06 -0500
Subject: Re: [CB] [Contra digest]


Please contact Heckel ASAP and let them know they have incorrectly named
their creation.

I'm looking at a Heckel catalog which I believe to date from 1931.  Their
model 18z is labeled "Heckelphon-Klarinette".  The English description is
"Heckelphon-Clarionet in B flat, made of wood, of magnificent tone,
fingering similar to that of the Clarionet (The "Heckelphone" is an other
instrument)"  Collectors of low clarinets could spend a lot of time in these

Heckel gave a more thorough description in his 1931 treatise "Der Fagott".
Here are the two pertinent paragraphs from Langwill's original translation:

"In order to give military band music a baritonal strengthening, in the
woodwind, we built in 1907 the heckelphone-clarinet in Bb.  It was to take
the place of the third clarinet which was partly taken up by an alto
clarinet too weak in tone.

"The heckelphone-clarinet is made entirely of wood, and has a beak
mouthpiece with single reed.  It has a pronounced conical bore after the
manner of the alto saxophone, and on account of the conicity, it overblows
the octave, not the twelfth like the cylindrical clarinet.  Its bell is
hollowed out spherically; it is a so called “Liebesbecher” or “Amour-Stuck”,
as in the case of the regular heckelphone.  The tone color recalls that of
the heckelphone, the clarinet-like tone especially is excellent,
extraordinarily har-monious and powerful.  On account of its penetrating
tone, the heckelphone-clarinet when properly applied, replaces two
clarinets; compared with the saxophone, its tone is neither sharp nor
metallic, but round and carrying.  One might describe the instrument as a
saxophone which is made of wood, but then it was required pitched in Eb.  We
speak of it as pitched Bb, as the fingering resembles that of the lower
register (chalumeau), of the clarinet."

Chip Owen
Columbia City, IN

----- Original Message -----
From: "List Server" <>
Sent: Monday, March 27, 2000 6:16 PM
Subject: [Contra digest]

> From:
> Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 16:47:07 EST
> Subject: Re:  [CB] Piccolo heckelphone
> Reply-To:
> In a message dated 3/26/00 5:14:35 PM, writes:
> << he piccolo heckelphone was only invented for 1 purpose as I recall, and
> that was to play the shepherd's pipe part in Tristan and Isolde! >>
> You're thinking of the Heckel-Clarina (sometimes wrongly called the
> "Heckelphone- Clarinet").
> Jon Carreira


Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 21:21:30 EST
Subject: Re: [CB] [Contra digest]


I stand corrected.  I had the correct and incorrect names reversed.  However,
the description of the Heckelphone-Clarinet seems slightly different then the
picture I have.  The one in my picture does not have a Liebesbecher bell
(like the heckelphone), but rather a slightly flared, obe-like bell.  And the
fingering system doesn't look very clarinet like.  It's a small picture, so I
could be wrong.  Perhaps the heckelphone-clarinet and the heckel-clarina are
different instruments?  (How's that for diplomacy?).

Jon Carreira

Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 23:10:55 -0800
From: jim & joyce <>
Subject: [CB] and then there were five....

That moennig looks neat.   The Selmars I have seen in old
catalogs had much larger bells, so I don't think it is much
relation.  From the length, it sounds like a contra alto.  The
seller seems to imply that there is some connection between Hans
Moenneg and the Moennigs  (like I can remember the spelling) who
made clarinets in Germany.  Anyone know?

This next one is a junker
which may be suitable for conversion to a didg.

Still that is five contra clarinets currently on eBay (and a contra mpc).

Perhaps this is the first clue to a series of seemingly unrelated
murders?  "What an odd coincidence," muttered Watson.  "Five
persons all of whom in life played the same odd instrument."
"Come Watson, you know I don't believe in coincidence." Holmes
said, a cryptic smile fleeting across his lips.

jim lande


Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 12:20:03 -0700
From: Grant Green <>
Subject: [CB] More CDs!

The second half of my Muramatsu Flute CD order arrived yesterday,
with several more CDs worthy of note. :-)

Finally, I can report that the long-lost Piacere Flute Ensemble CD (1995 Tokyo Sound City, TSC CD 0029K) is available through Muramatsu Flutes as well.  The CD (yes, I ordered a 2nd copy) is now boxed in English, although the internal liner notes (redone as well) are all exclusively Japanese.


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