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From: "Gerald T Ortman" <gto@iquest.net>
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 20:50:55 -0500
Subject: Re: [CB] hall crystal flute
Reply-To: contrabass@contrabass.comI have had one for some time and find it most enjoyable.
Bear
----- Original Message -----> about a month ago i bought a crystal flute...should be here soon, but i was
> curious if anyone has played one of them...and how it sounds??
>
> peace n love
> dana
---------------------------------------------------------Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 22:40:53 -0600
From: George Moore <geomoore@flash.net>
Subject: [CB] Contra Bass Clarinet vs Contralto Clarinet
Reply-To: contrabass@contrabass.comA long time ago, I played the E-flat Contralto clarinet (although we
called it contra bass). I started playing one when I was in the 8th
grade, and continued playing through my freshman year of college. I
haven't played one since. I have a question, and I know someone can
help me. I know the basic difference between the BB-flat contrabass
clarinet and the contralto at least at a primary level. I always
playe tuba music that I transposed with the sharps and flats rule.
What music does the contra bass clarinet play? Thanks.Geo
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From: Fmmck@aol.com
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 00:19:35 EST
Subject: Re: [CB] Contra Bass Clarinet vs Contralto Clarinet
Reply-To: contrabass@contrabass.comIn a message dated 3/21/00 11:48:16 PM, geomoore@flash.net writes:
<< I know the basic difference between the BB-flat contrabass
clarinet and the contralto at least at a primary level. I always
playe tuba music that I transposed with the sharps and flats rule.
What music does the contra bass clarinet play? >>Geo-
I play Bb Bass Clarinet music when there is no Contra part.
Another alternative is to play Bass Saxophone parts. The Bass Sax is also in
BBb. The Contra Bass Clarinet goes a few notes lower than the Sax. However,
there aren't many Bass Sax parts either!Fred McKenzie
MMB
---------------------------------------------------------From: "Musicstudents.com" <jonsmith@access1.net>
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 22:17:54 -0800
Subject: Re: [CB] Question for Lelia
Reply-To: contrabass@contrabass.comJim Katz wrote,
>Hey, if you don't play these things in an orchestra or amateur groups, what
do you do with them, anyhow (If this is too personal a question, or police
attention may be drawn by your answer, don't feel obligated....)>I employ them in abominable rituals to call unspeakable horrors forth from
the frozen depths of the space-time continuum. The unspeakable horrors don't
always come when they're called, but maybe with a little more practice....Ia! Cthulhu f'tagn!
Lelia
(rhymes with "necrophilia")
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Hey, contra owners, since I moved to California, I have been thinking about
starting my own religion called the "Church of the Low Tones".Just think - buy your contras tax free.
Jonathan
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Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 02:05:52 -0800
From: David Flager <tubadave@jps.net>
Subject: Re: [CB] [Contra digest]
Reply-To: contrabass@contrabass.comAnd we increasingly have two divergent versions of 'English' too.
American English and the original (correct! :-) ) version - British English.
What a bunch of crap! I was married to a brit. Do you realize just how
many dialects of english there are just on the UK side of the atlantic??Sophomorish crap! "correct" is an illusion unless you are kissing the
queens butt.
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From: George Moore <geomoore@flash.net>
Subject: Re: [CB] Contra Bass Clarinet vs Contralto Clarinet
Reply-To: contrabass@contrabass.comFmmck@aol.com wrote:
> In a message dated 3/21/00 11:48:16 PM, geomoore@flash.net writes:
> << I know the basic difference between the BB-flat contrabass
> clarinet and the contralto at least at a primary level. I always
> playe tuba music that I transposed with the sharps and flats rule.
> What music does the contra bass clarinet play? >>
>
> Geo-
>
> I play Bb Bass Clarinet music when there is no Contra part.
>
> Another alternative is to play Bass Saxophone parts. The Bass Sax is also in
> BBb. The Contra Bass Clarinet goes a few notes lower than the Sax. However,
> there aren't many Bass Sax parts either!
>
> Fred McKenzie
> <A HREF="http://www.dreamnetstudios.com/music/mmb/index.htm">MMB</A>
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> end contrabass listFred,
Thanks for the info.
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Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 12:50:01 -0500
From: Topper <leo_g@carroll.com>
Subject: [CB] CC Sousa???
Reply-To: contrabass@contrabass.comhttp://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=290204675
is this a CC Sousa? How would I tell?
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From: "Spencer Parks" <ilylamp@hotmail.com>
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 12:12:51 CST
Subject: Re: [CB] [Contra digest]
Reply-To: contrabass@contrabass.combut
>i do know
>that pretty much ANY natural type instruments can make a HUUUGGEEE variety of
>sounds.I've heard some amazing sounds come out of didgeridu
SJP
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From: "Spencer Parks" <ilylamp@hotmail.com>
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 12:27:49 CST
Subject: Re: [CB] Contra Bass Clarinet vs Contralto Clarinet
Reply-To: contrabass@contrabass.comHowever,
>there aren't many Bass Sax parts either!I already knew that, but had to experience it the hard way. I started
playing bass sax junior year is high school (only three years ago). I think
we actually got one song that had a bass sax part, but I don't think we
played in the concert at the end of the year. I think I mostly played bari
parts transposed, although I could've been playing some tuba parts too. I
really don't even remember.SJP
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Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 10:35:08 -0700
From: Grant Green <gdgreen@contrabass.com>
Subject: Re: [CB] Contra Bass Clarinet vs Contralto Clarinet
Reply-To: contrabass@contrabass.com>help me. I know the basic difference between the BB-flat contrabass
>clarinet and the contralto at least at a primary level. I always
>playe tuba music that I transposed with the sharps and flats rule.
>What music does the contra bass clarinet play? Thanks.Ideally, you play contrabass clarinet parts. If there isn't one, I
play the contralto clarinet part (usually on a contralto clarinet,
but I transposed constantly before I found a contralto clarinet). If
there isn't a contrabass or contralto part, next choice is bass sax
(which you can read straight, without transposing) and contrabassoon
(which you have to transpose from concert pitch bass clef), which are
at least low reed parts. In the absence of those, I read off the
bass clarinet part, playing up an octave where necessary (and
possible). On the rare occasion where there is also no bass clarinet
part, we all play off the tenor sax part, or just listen, or I double
the bari sax part or tuba part on contralto. I've even run across a
few European arrangements that include a transposed treble clef Eb
tuba part, which are easily playable on contralto clarinet.When playing from the bass clarinet part, one needs to listen for the
voice's function in the arrangement. Often the bass clarinet part
switches between "bass line" (often doubling the tuba), "intermediate
harmony" where the part is not the root of the chord (often doubling
the tenor sax, characterized by whole note or half note lines), and
"lower end of the soprano clarinet voice", where the part is mainly
upper register and participates in runs, arpeggios, etc., with the
squeaky horns. Bass line parts typically sound best played as
written (i.e., in octaves with the bass clarinet), as you end up in
unison with the tuba and string bass, and blend in. Intermediate
harmony parts often do not sound good doubled at the octave, and
should be played in unison with the bass clarinets (which can require
you to jump into the altissimo) where possible or omitted. Low end
of the soprano section is usually pointless to attempt, unless you're
pretty proficient at the extreme altissimo range of the horn.Enjoy!
Grant
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---------------------------------------------------------Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 10:39:17 -0700
From: Grant Green <gdgreen@contrabass.com>
Subject: Re: [CB] CC Sousa???
Reply-To: contrabass@contrabass.com>is this a CC Sousa? How would I tell?
I think the first question is: Is this still a sousaphone at all?
Given the amount of hardware missing, you probably can't tell. If it
were playable, you could play a series of harmonics and see if they
correspond to the Bb series or the C series. Failing that, you could
measure the length of the bore, and see if it is closer to 16' or 18'
(C or Bb, respectively). But in this case, you may be missing enough
of the bore to make even measurement a questionable method.Has anyone ever heard of a C sousaphone before?
Bottom line - its whatever pitch that you restore it to.
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From: "Chuck Guzis" <tubastuff@sydex.com>
Subject: Re: [CB] CC Sousa???
Reply-To: contrabass@contrabass.comOn 3/22/00, Grant Green asks:
>Has anyone ever heard of a C sousaphone before?Amati claims their ASH 262A is a CC/BBb sousie. See:
http://www.amati.cz/english/production/instruments/psousaphones.htm
Cheers,
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From: BJacobs571@aol.com
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 16:56:12 EST
Subject: Re: [CB] contrary minds...
Reply-To: contrabass@contrabass.comI would like to point out that I have listened to the digidoo for much
more than 5 minuets and have actually played one as well. A friend of mine
used to play one in a folk band. I have listened to more than one player at
more than one time. Some of the players I have listened to have been quite
good and others just people having a go for fun. I would never make up my
mind in such a short period of time. Never the less I will stick by my
opinions as nobody has said anything other than state their opinions. An
opinion from one person is no more valid than from another.I have several primitive instruments and I get quite a lot of enjoyment
from playing them, but if I want to actually play anything specific I will
always reach for my Clarinet as most primitive instruments are modal. This
requires you to find the correct starting note and hope you have enough range
to finish the tune. The ethnic music ( from my ethnic group I admit ) that I
love requires a chromatic instrument as it was developed on such instruments
( Violin / Doublebass and later Clarinet).I notice how while I state my opinions are just opinions most of the
digi-lovers do not add this to theirs and just state "FACTS".I have just borrowed a Bassoon from a friend so if anybody has any tips
for a complete novice on a double reed instrument I would be grateful.regards Bernard Jacobs
---------------------------------------------------------From: "Leanne Enck" <kontragirl@hotmail.com>
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 15:11:46 MST
Subject: Re: [CB] Contra Bass Clarinet vs Contralto Clarinet
Reply-To: contrabass@contrabass.comIf I had a contrabass to play, I would double the bass clarinet part when
there was no bass sax or contrabass clarinet part readily availble to me.
Simple, and easier than carrying two instruments. (I happen to know that
one...)Leanne, the omnipotent contralto clarinetist.
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