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Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2000 01:43:44 EST
Subject: Re: all that Jazz

In a message dated 1/14/00 3:21:34 AM, writes:

<< Stravinsky? He certainly used them in, for example, 'The Rite of Spring'
(1913). >>

Actually, he used them a couple of years earlier in 'Petrushka'.  As a matter
of fact, A Gb triad played over a C triad is known as the "Petrushka Chord".

Jon Carreira
Stravinsky lover

Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2000 17:52:36 -0500
From: John Howell <>
Subject: About Chords

>From: Michael Kilpatrick <>
>Anyway, when does a chord with lots of extensions cease to be a single
>chord with lots of extensions and become instead two superimposed

It's the way they're used rather than the spellings.  If the voicing
emphasizes a polytonal feeling--often using just triads--then it's a
polychord.  If there's a strong sense of chord root, it's extensions.

>Hey? C2? Never seen such a thing. C9, Cmaj9, C69, yes, but never C2.

It turns up a lot in Contemporary Christian, more than jazz.  It's used
when you want to add the second degree of the chord, but specifically do
NOT want a 6th, minor 7th, or major 7th along with it--a sound very popular
in CC music.  And it's almost always used as a 2, crunched in with the root
and 3rd, and not in an upper octave as a 9.

The final chord in the credits for Star Trek: Voyager is a little
different, and could also be notated C2.  It uses the 2nd degree of the
chord but omits the 3rd.  In that case the notation would imply a suspended
(and unresolved) 2 rather than the more usual suspended 4 notated as C4 or


John & Susie Howell
Virginia Tech Department of Music
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