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Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 17:27:47 -0700
From: Grant Green <gdgreen@contrabass.com>
Subject: List Archives!
Reply-To: contrabass@contrabass.comHi,
Just thought I'd announce that I've finally started the process of
posting the archives of this list
(http://www.contrabass.com/contra-archive/c-arch.html). Finally
managed to figure out how to make an index page in JavaScript that
doesn't require updating every time I upload another digest. So far,
I've posted November 1999 to present, and am uploading bits of
October. Bit by bit!Enjoy,
Grant
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Grant Green gdgreen@contrabass.com
http://www.contrabass.com
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---------------------------------------------------------Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2000 15:42:36 -0700
From: Robert Martin <rnm@azstarnet.com>
Subject: Re: [Contra digest]
Reply-To: contrabass@contrabass.comAt 01:18 AM 1/1/2000 -0500, you wrote:
>
>Almost all of the F mezzos were made in the late 1920s for about two years.
>None of them would have been lacquered. Finishes at the time ranged from
>polished bare brass to nickel to silver to gold plating, with variations
>inbetween. Lacquer as an instrumental covering did not exist, at least not
>in commercial form. It is possible, though very uncommon, that an F Mezzo
>ordered in the 1930s might be lacquered from the factory. Usually these
>orders would be filled from a leftover silver plated F mezzo from inventory .
> One would need to carefully check the serial number for a first clue as to
>the unlikely possibility of an originally lacquered F mezzo.
>Paul Cohen
I realize that Conn did not offer lacquer as a finish in the 1920's in their
catalog (only bare brass). But, is that true of other manufacturers?
In particular, I believe that Buescher did have a lacquer finish from
the factory. I have a lacquer finish Buescher soprano from about 1925/6
which I inherited from my grandfather. He was the original owner and
played professionally in traveling bands of the 1920's. He stopped
playing in those bands by 1928 (to settle down) and put the horn
in a closet until I took it up about 1960. Essentially a one
owner horn and it always has been lacquer. It was either lacquered right
at the factory or the shop where it was bought - no other
possibility I can think of. I've seen other Bueschers, and Martins
from the 1920's that appear to be original lacquer (sharp engraving that
isn't buffed, old yellowed lac that appears of different quality than
modern lac, etc.). But I have no way of factually verifying those
horns.So, did, or did not,Buescher offer lacquer as a finish in the 1920s?
Any other hard evidence than what I have? My evidence suggests that
they did.BTW, lacquer as a finish (especially for furniture) does date back
earlier than the 20th century I believe. It must also have been
available for instruments, if one chose to use it.Regards,
Bob
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Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 12:17:07 -0700
From: Grant Green <gdgreen@contrabass.com>
Subject: Fwd: Introduction: also: Whats attcking my reed stash?
Reply-To: contrabass@contrabass.comAn introduction from our newest subscriber:
>From: Kadamasuta@aol.com
>Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 14:46:11 EST
>Subject: Introduction: also: Whats attcking my reed stash?
>To: gdgreen@contrabass.com
>
>HauD All,
>
>Thank you Grant for the advice on finding a contrabassclarinet.
>I'd like to say hello to the list-introduce myself. My name is Joe C and not
>any kind of spoof on Kenny G. I just likje to play and learn. I started when
>I was 4. If I wasn't so damn dyslexic I might of made a living from playing
>music instead of making sure
>I am happy to be here at this contra list as I have on occasion felt good to
>try and do some justice for the dream in different ways. Somebody once said
>that going way down like that could cause problems.
>I've been having dreams about them for 20 years (before I knew what they
>were) that and the contrabassoon. But I really don't like playiong the
>bassoon, and the string bass just limits me. I didn'y like the bass sax cause
>I cold not get it past to pp - ff.
>
>
>In a message dated 1/5/00 2:09:50 PM, gdgreen@contrabass.com writes:
>
> >>I would like to subscribe to the list and I am lookiing for a contrabass
> >>clarinet.
> >>
> >>Many Thanks
> >>
> >>Joe C
> >
> >Hi Joe,
> >
> >You're now subscribed: please feel free to post an introduction.
> >
> >As for contrabass clarinets, you can frequently find them 2nd hand at
> >the Woodwind & Brasswind (http://www.wwandbw.com), Charles Fail Music
> >(http://www.charlesfail.com), the Witchita Band Instrument Co.
> >(http://www.wichitaband.com), and ebay (http://www.ebay.com) (search
> >under Misc:Musical Instruments:Woodwinds).
> >
> >Best of luck!
> >
> >Grant---------------------------------------------------------
From: Opusnandy@aol.com
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 16:19:52 EST
Subject: Re: [Contra digest]
Reply-To: contrabass@contrabass.comI have a Martin bass saxophone in my posession right now from 1929 that is
original lacquer, but that's the earliest I've heard of instruments with gols
lacquer.Jon Carreira
---------------------------------------------------------From: Kadamasuta@aol.com
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 16:50:17 EST
Subject: repost: Intro (and that black mold in my reed stash)
Reply-To: contrabass@contrabass.comThese computuers are messing me up. I'll have to do that over.
Sorry about that intro mess up. Here's a better one I hope.Hello All,
I'd like to say hello to the list-introduce myself. My name is Joe C and not
any kind of spoof on Kenny G. I just like to play and learn. I started when I
was 4 on soprano cl. but I wanted to play drums. Parents bought me a clarinet
instead. If I wasn't so damn dyslexic I might of made a living from playing
music instead of making sure I make a living so I could continue to play
music. So I just like to play. I consider myself a serious student. I like
Jazz and Classical, and avant gourde.I am happy to be here at this contra list as I have on occasion felt good to
try and do some justice for the dream in different ways. Somebody once said
that going way down like that could cause problems. Like physical problems.
No matter. I feel a compelling need to get a contrabass clarinet. Been
looking and can't find one.I love the bass clar but I keep reaching for more
keys with my pinkeys... Used to have a Bruno (conn) bass sax. Didn't like it.
Played a contra bass cl once and fell in love. Now I'm playing a bass cl
love that too.I've been having dreams about them (contra bass cl and contrabassoon) for 20
years (before I knew what they were) that contrabass clar. and the
contrabassoon. But I really don't like playing the bassoon, and the string
bass just limits me by way of parts or the role it must play. I didn't like
the bass sax cause I could not get it past to pp - ff.About that fungus. Back in the seventies I put away some tenor vandoren
reeds; some more recently were in plastic (la-voz). The ones in the plastic
were opened up recently and them and others that wern't in the plastic got
attcked by this black fungus, kind of like a mold that got into the reeds and
dicolored them. What is that stuff?I've been playing them and they aint making me sneeze or nothing. Anybody
ever get their reeds attcked by mold?
Anyway I'm happy to be here and am anxious to learn and read your posts.
Best to All,
Joe C
---------------------------------------------------------Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2000 17:05:51 -0500
From: bulshevik <bulshevik@home.com>
Subject: Re: repost: Intro (and that black mold in my reed stash)
Reply-To: contrabass@contrabass.comNo reeds attacked by mold, but about 40 years ago, my dad put away a box
of strength 4 Ciccone soprano clarinet reeds. They're not quite 4's
anymore, but still very playable. I played some a few years ago!abi
Kadamasuta@aol.com wrote:
> These computuers are messing me up. I'll have to do that over.
> Sorry about that intro mess up. Here's a better one I hope.
>
> Hello All,
>
> I'd like to say hello to the list-introduce myself. My name is Joe C and not
> any kind of spoof on Kenny G. I just like to play and learn. I started when I
> was 4 on soprano cl. but I wanted to play drums. Parents bought me a clarinet
> instead. If I wasn't so damn dyslexic I might of made a living from playing
> music instead of making sure I make a living so I could continue to play
> music. So I just like to play. I consider myself a serious student. I like
> Jazz and Classical, and avant gourde.
>
> I am happy to be here at this contra list as I have on occasion felt good to
> try and do some justice for the dream in different ways. Somebody once said
> that going way down like that could cause problems. Like physical problems.
> No matter. I feel a compelling need to get a contrabass clarinet. Been
> looking and can't find one.I love the bass clar but I keep reaching for more
> keys with my pinkeys... Used to have a Bruno (conn) bass sax. Didn't like it.
> Played a contra bass cl once and fell in love. Now I'm playing a bass cl
> love that too.
>
> I've been having dreams about them (contra bass cl and contrabassoon) for 20
> years (before I knew what they were) that contrabass clar. and the
> contrabassoon. But I really don't like playing the bassoon, and the string
> bass just limits me by way of parts or the role it must play. I didn't like
> the bass sax cause I could not get it past to pp - ff.
>
> About that fungus. Back in the seventies I put away some tenor vandoren
> reeds; some more recently were in plastic (la-voz). The ones in the plastic
> were opened up recently and them and others that wern't in the plastic got
> attcked by this black fungus, kind of like a mold that got into the reeds and
> dicolored them. What is that stuff?
>
> I've been playing them and they aint making me sneeze or nothing. Anybody
> ever get their reeds attcked by mold?
>
> Anyway I'm happy to be here and am anxious to learn and read your posts.
>
> Best to All,
>
> Joe C
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