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list Tue, 4 Aug 1998 Volume 1 : Number 51
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Date: Tue, 4 Aug 1998 12:08:24 EDT
Subject: Re: list V1 #50
In a message dated 8/4/98 4:59:18 AM, you wrote:
<<You can now find more current updates of the digest at
http://www.liszt.com/read/contrabass-list/. I listed the list at Liszt
(try saying *that* out loud...), and they now provide archives of the
digests, updated more frequently than I do. I'll still continue to update
my own site (http://www.contrabass.com/contra-archive/c-arch5.html) as time
permits, but in the meantime, you should be able to find digests at Liszt
within a few days of posting.
This is confusing to me. Does this mean we will no longer be receiving the
contrabass list in the form we have been enjoying? Is this list being phased
out? Do we need to change our comm address to keep receiving and posting to
this list? Ouch.
Date: Tue, 04 Aug 1998 11:39:49 -0700
From: Grant Green
Subject: Re: list V1 #50
At 12:08 PM 8/4/98 EDT, Paul wrote:
><<You can now find more current updates of the digest at
>http://www.liszt.com/read/contrabass-list/. I listed the list at Liszt
>(try saying *that* out loud...), and they now provide archives of the
>digests, updated more frequently than I do. I'll still continue to update
>my own site (http://www.contrabass.com/contra-archive/c-arch5.html) as time
>permits, but in the meantime, you should be able to find digests at Liszt
>within a few days of posting.
>This is confusing to me. Does this mean we will no longer be receiving the
>contrabass list in the form we have been enjoying? Is this list being phased
>out? Do we need to change our comm address to keep receiving and posting to
>this list? Ouch.
Nope, I'm not changing anything about the list. Liszt.com is a list of
lists about music-related topics, a sort of web index for mailing lists.
They subscribe to the digest, and post them in their archives (along with
their advertising). You'll continue to receive the digests the same way
you have been, and I'll continue to archive them on my site as time
permits. Liszt just provides a way for you to look up recent digests in
the interval before I have time to archive them myself.
Grant D. Green
www.contrabass.com Just filling in on sarrusophone
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Date: Tue, 4 Aug 1998 15:37:16 EDT
Subject: Re: list V1 #38
In a message dated 98-07-22 20:16:11 EDT, you write:
<< Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 18:35:42 -0400
From: (Michael J Effenberger)
Subject: Re: Serpent
When you find out, please tell me. I've been interested in obtaining a
serpent for a while, also.
On Tue, 21 Jul 1998 15:10:46 +0000 Kilmer writes:
>Just want to say before I get started,
>my message is NOT about stereo photography!
>I have a sort of extra interest for the more classical and medieval
>instruments. I've constructed a couple myself out of instructions,but
>there's one I'd like to get/create.
>Does anyone know if anyone MAKES Serpents?(i'm sure they aren't exactly
>Does anyone know HOW you can make a serpent(measurments,hole
>And finally,are there any sites on the ineternet about this instrument
>or how to make it?
Use this URL for a list of modern serpent manufacturers!
You should also contact Doug Yeo, Serpentist and Bass Trombonist for the
Boston Symphony Orchestra, who is very active on the internet and is very
helpful! He may not be THAT active online in the summer, what with his
concerts and teaching at Tanglewood in Western Mass., but he just might be!
Worth a try!
The URL for his website is:
He has links to the Serpent Website and Christopher Monk Serpents, among other
things. I saw him do a lecture demonstration of the serpent family this spring
at the Museum of Fine Arts in Boston, which owns several serpents. He
demonstrated not only the regular serpent, but also the soprano and contrabass
serpent! Send me your email address and I'll upload a wav file of his
contrabass serpent demonstration.
Date: Tue, 4 Aug 1998 19:05:43 EDT
I think Frank Diaz is right that Cundy-Bettoney made a lot of student- grade
instruments, but I believe probably Timothy Tikker is also right that his Eb
clarinet is professional quality, because I don't think the US military
services have ever ordered anything less. Tryouts for military bands are
extremely competitive to this day. That's pro-level playing.
An instrument repairman who got his training in the Navy during the Vietnam
War told me that at least through that time (probably up to the present), the
services bought some instruments outright, to have matching horns for the
elite bands, and also offered a buying plan to let military musicians purchase
their own high-quality instruments at an attractive discount. I recently
bought a 1951 "The Martin" (aka the "Martin Committee") silver-plated tenor
sax engraved "US". "USN" (for US Navy) is stencilled on the original heavy-
duty road case. This was Martin's top-of-the line sax at the time. It's
scarce in silver plate. (Usually it's lacquered brass.) It came with two
fine mouthpieces (a Martin and a custom Brilhart), along with a reed knife and
other pro-quality gear.
Some military instruments show up on the market in "buyer beware" condition.
Especially if they saw overseas duty in wartime, they sometimes got slammed
around, suffered incompetent repairs by an ordnance tech because there was no
music tech available behind the lines, etc.. However, I think military horns
are generally well worth buying as long as there's no severe damage. I know
that given a choice between two uncommon bass instruments, both good brand
names, close to the same price, both in banged-up, unplayable condition (but
preferably not to the point where I'd have to sell my cat, my husband and my
soul to the repairman...), one engraved US and one not, I'd take my chances
with the US horn.
Btw, I've seen other references to a Cundy-Bettoney "Silvabet" student-quality
clarinet, but apparently C-B made at least two models of different grades with
similar names. My Bb C-B is clearly engraved with the model name "Silver Bet"
and the name of the maker, H. Bettoney, along with the C-B logo and serial
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