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1998-06-12

 
list                           Fri, 12 Jun 1998            Volume 1 : Number 1

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Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 12:20:15 -0700
From: Adam Korman <adamk@san.rr.com>
To: "Contrabass List" <list@contrabass.com>
Subject: Contrabass Cl stand

Hi all,

I've got a straight CB clarinet and it's extremely unweildy when I'm
doubling.  It's not so bad when I'm playing near walls that I can lean
the thing against, but on stage I resort to either (a) laying it on top
of the case (which is difficult and dangerous 'cause it's so long --
especially if I don't take the time to shorten the peg) or (b) just
wrapping my arms around it while I play regular clarinet (I'm sure this
looks awfully strange, and it's certainly not ideal in terms of playing
comfort).

Does anyone know of a proper stand for the thing, or has anyone fashioned
something out of other stands that works?  Any advice is greatly
appreciated.

Thanks,
Adam
adamk@san.rr.com

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Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 22:50:25 -0500
From: "William J. Dawson" <w-dawson@nwu.edu>
To: list@contrabass.com
Subject: Re: Contrabass Cl stand

Adam,

Some of my CB Cl friends use a modified bassoon stand -- one that extends
to about 36" and has a tripod base (folds up, collapses to 23").  Stands
like this are available for about US$120. from Nielsen Woodwinds in
Illinois, Forrest's in California, and the Woodwind/Brasswind in Indiana
(latter's is made by Koenig & Meyer). If you need the addresses, etc,
please contact me.
Alternatively, one can construct a similar stand from wood, padded with felt.

Dr. Bill Dawson
Contrabassoonist, etc. in Chicago suburbs [and happy to be back on the list
once more!]
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At 12:20 PM 6/11/1998 -0700, adamk@san.rr.com wrote:
>Hi all,
>I've got a straight CB clarinet and it's extremely unweildy when I'm
>doubling.  It's not so bad when I'm playing near walls that I can lean
>the thing against, but on stage I resort to either (a) laying it on top
>of the case (which is difficult and dangerous 'cause it's so long --
>especially if I don't take the time to shorten the peg) or (b) just
>wrapping my arms around it while I play regular clarinet (I'm sure this
>looks awfully strange, and it's certainly not ideal in terms of playing
>comfort).
>
>Does anyone know of a proper stand for the thing, or has anyone fashioned
>something out of other stands that works?  Any advice is greatly
>appreciated.
>
>Thanks,
>Adam

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Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 20:45:13 EDT
From: <Opusnandy@aol.com>
To: list@contrabass.com
Subject: Sarrusaphone Mouthpieces

Grant (or anyone else on the list),
   Any idead on where to pick up a single reed mouthpiece for a Conn Eb
Contrabass Sarrusaphone?  I am a bassoonist and I can play my horn with the
double reeds just fine, but I'd like to give the single reed mouthpiece a try
and see if I can get it sounding a little more saxophonish (or farty, take
your pick).  Right now it sounds too much like a contrabassoon, too pretty.
Thanks!
Jon C.

P.S.  I live in the Chicago area, if that helps to narrow down a place to find
one, although I'm not adverse to mail ordering one

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Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 18:03:19 -0700
From: Grant Green <gdgreen@contrabass.com>
To: list@contrabass.com
Subject: Re: Sarrusaphone Mouthpieces

At 08:45 PM 6/11/98 EDT, Jon C. wrote:
>   Any idead on where to pick up a single reed mouthpiece for a Conn Eb
>Contrabass Sarrusaphone?  I am a bassoonist and I can play my horn with the
>double reeds just fine, but I'd like to give the single reed mouthpiece a try
>and see if I can get it sounding a little more saxophonish (or farty, take
>your pick).  Right now it sounds too much like a contrabassoon, too pretty.
>Thanks!
>Jon C.

If you just want to try out the concept, the easiest thing to do is to get
a soprano sax mpc, find a cork or stopper that fits the tenon end, and
drill out the cork until it fits your bocal.  The result might not play in
tune, but it should give you an idea of the timbre.  If you want to play it
in tune, you may need to adjust how far the cork extends into the mpc
chamber.  Theoretically, the instrument forms a regular cone (although in
the case of sarrusophones, its generally a pretty convoluted cone!), with a
bit missing from the very tip.  The volume of the "missing tip" should be
equal to the interior volume of your reed (and/or mpc).  The tricky part is
that there is a substantial correction factor for the reed's flexibility:
if I remember right, the fact that the reed is flexible makes it look like
it encloses a somewhat larger volume (I'll have to go back and look it up
in Baines).  The "executive summary" is that if you play around with the
chamber volume, you should be able to get something to play in tune.

If you have a particularly narrow bore instrument, you might want to start
with a sopranino sax mpc: probably harder to find second hand...

Good luck!

Grant
 

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Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 22:23:38 -0700
From: "S.K. Pasisozis" <pasisozi@swlink.net>
To: list@contrabass.com
Subject: Re: Sarrusaphone Mouthpieces

There was a time when SINGLE REED mouthpieces were made for oboes and
bassoons. Obviously, they were principally used by clarinet or sax players
who doubled.

Could maybe you try contacting Conn who made the beast to start with, and
see what they say?

If you're just experimenting, why not try an Eflat clar. mouthpiece? Like
chicken soup, it can't hurt!
 

>At 08:45 PM 6/11/98 EDT, Jon C. wrote:
>>   Any idead on where to pick up a single reed mouthpiece for a Conn Eb
>>Contrabass Sarrusaphone?  I am a bassoonist and I can play my horn with the
>>double reeds just fine, but I'd like to give the single reed mouthpiece a try
>>and see if I can get it sounding a little more saxophonish (or farty, take
>>your pick).  Right now it sounds too much like a contrabassoon, too pretty.
>>Thanks!
>>Jon C.
>
>If you just want to try out the concept, the easiest thing to do is to get
>a soprano sax mpc, find a cork or stopper that fits the tenon end, and
>drill out the cork until it fits your bocal.  The result might not play in
>tune, but it should give you an idea of the timbre.  If you want to play it
>in tune, you may need to adjust how far the cork extends into the mpc
>chamber.  Theoretically, the instrument forms a regular cone (although in
>the case of sarrusophones, its generally a pretty convoluted cone!), with a
>bit missing from the very tip.  The volume of the "missing tip" should be
>equal to the interior volume of your reed (and/or mpc).  The tricky part is
>that there is a substantial correction factor for the reed's flexibility:
>if I remember right, the fact that the reed is flexible makes it look like
>it encloses a somewhat larger volume (I'll have to go back and look it up
>in Baines).  The "executive summary" is that if you play around with the
>chamber volume, you should be able to get something to play in tune.
>
>If you have a particularly narrow bore instrument, you might want to start
>with a sopranino sax mpc: probably harder to find second hand...
>
>Good luck!
>
>Grant
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Date: Fri, 12 Jun 1998 11:13:36 EDT
From: <NINEWINDS@aol.com>
To: list@contrabass.com
Subject: Re:  Contrabass Cl stand

Look for a bassoon stand made by a west german company(which I can't recall),
you should find it in the woodwind & brasswind cataloge. You could probably
also find it in any double reed catalog but it would be a little higher in
price I think.
Vinny

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Date: Fri, 12 Jun 1998 07:39:20 -0500
From: Jean Adler <jean@espressocom.com>
To: list@contrabass.com
Subject: c.b.stand

As a bass clarinetist I found most of the "commercial" stands to be
terribly flimsy.  My husband, a machine shop owner, fashioned one for me
that I never have to worry about tipping over.  Granted it is heavier
than the commercial ones, but after playing low reeds for so many years
what's one more heavy thing to carry?
I would recommend having one custom made.  Depending on the hourly shop
rate it may cost a bit.  I doubt there are more than a few dollars worth
of materials in my stand.
Jean Adler
bass clarinetist, contra-bassoonist

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Date: Fri, 12 Jun 1998 10:42:07 -0700
From: Grant Green <gdgreen@contrabass.com>
To: list@contrabass.com
Subject: Everyone is Resubscribed :-)

Hi,

Yes, everyone got a "Welcome to the list" message the other day.  As part
of the efforts to get the list back on line, Scott deleted the list, and
resubscribed everyone to the new (and otherwise identical) list.  As a
result, everyone got another welcome message automatically.

Now, did anyone receive any digests *before* the welcome message?  I seem
to be missing a few myself....

Grant
 

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www.contrabass.com     Just filling in on sarrusophone
Contrabass email list:             list@contrabass.com
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Date: Tue, 01 Apr 1997 22:46:11 +0400
From: auctyo@mail.freelines.ru
To: list@contrabass.com
Subject: list
 

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