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list                           Thu, 21 May 1998           Volume 1 : Number 80

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Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 16:13:00 -0400
From: (GDG)
To: (contrabass)
Subject: Re: Are you there?

>Grant (and others),
>I've received no posts on the listserv since early April. Has something
>happened to it?
>Bill Dawson
     Yes, we're having problems again.  A large number of ISPs have
     apparently adopted spam-fighting procedures that result in mail from being refused.  Not because I spam in my spare time
     ("what spare time?"), but because of the way the DNS is configured.
     Scott is presently working on a solution.  If you've received this,
     your ISP probably hasn't adopted the "latest" spam countermeasures.
     Yet.  Frankly, I'm not sure that *I'm* getting the digest now... Has
     anyone received a digest later than #77?
     Grant D. Green                         650-233-2126 (direct)
     Fish & Richardson, P.C.                   650-854-0875 (fax)
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Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 13:42:25 -0400
From: Jim Lande <>
Subject: Re: list V1 #79

> On May 16 a new member on our list introduced himself and stated
> he was  composing a symphony for a list of low instruments.
> While it is true that everyone of us on this list got very
> excited about it, in reality, where would anyone ever get that
> combination of players together?

Maybe a virtual orchestra -- something like chess through the
mail.  The first person records his part, mails it to the second.
Each successive person records a new track and passes it on.

Pretty soon we will all have special software so that we can all
hook up to the ContraBass Virtual Orch web site, plays into our
microphones and listen to whatever streams back.  Best of all,
each person would have some controls so that they could speed up
or slow down, change the balance, shifts some parts up or down an
third, etc.  Everybody could play in C!!  The only problem I
can forsee is that some fool will crank up the system a little,
and then we will only have to hum along -- the system will convert
us to the proper instruments.


Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 13:44:11 -0400
From: (GDG)
To: (contrabass)
Subject: Re: Bass orchestra symphony

>On May 16 a new member on our list introduced himself and stated he was
>composing a symphony for a list of low instruments.  While it is true
>that everyone of us on this list got very excited about it, in reality,
>where would anyone ever get that combination of players together?
     Probably as difficult as getting six sarrusophones together... Not
     *too* likely, but it could happen...


Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 13:47:47 -0400
From: (GDG)
To: (contrabass)
Subject: Re: list V1 #78

>The work on the trio for contrabass clarinet,contrabassoon & percussion
>and the wind ensemble piece(including bass flute and contrabass
>clarinet)is coming to an end now,and i would like to know if there is
>any"potential"performers of them.The trio is 15 minutes long and the

It shouldn't be too difficult to find three players for this.

>percussionist plays glockenspiel,vibes,marimba,tubular bells and
>2-octave crotales.The wind ensemble pieces are scored for:
>2 flutes(1 also piccolo,2 also bass)
>Oboe,English Horn
>Eb clarinet,Bb clarinet,Bass clarinet,Contrabass clarinet
>Bassoon(maybe 2),Contrabassoon
>2 trumpets(1 also piccolo trumpet,both also
>flugelhorn) 2 trombones(2 is bass trombone)
>2 french horns(1 in Bb,2 in F,1 also Bb Wagner Tuba,2 also F wagner tuba
>and F descant horn)
     For this, you probably want something like the Omnibus Wind Ensemble,
     or a modern music group (like the one that performed Frank Zappa's
     "Yellow Shark").  Of the instruments you've scored for, the Wagner
     tubas are probably the rarest, followed by bass flute.


Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 13:53:00 -0700
From: Grant Green <>
Subject: Ancient Tubas


The Spring issue of the TUBA Journal (25:3) has a nice article by Arnold
Myers about several antique tubas (and their ancestors) now part of the
Fiske collection in Claremont, CA.  The article includes two *very*
interesting pictures, one of a BBb tuba that sits on *both* shoulders, with
the bell facing forward, and another of an 1820 bass horn.

Worth seeking out!

Arnold, would you be interested in posting copies of the photographs, or
making them available?


Grant D. Green             Just filling in on sarrusophone
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